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Thanks for the responders to my IP question. Next up: I am in need of a OP cover and I wish to remain HD aluminum stock in excellent to like new condition. The IPC for my year 76 calls for a 60508-82A. I can't find one anywhere in the condition I need. My ? are: Can I use a 60507-77 (77 to early 82)? Will it mate to my 60620-74 IP or do I need to change IP to a 60421-79a? What is the difference between OP -82a and -77 that I would need to be concerned about? There are plenty of -77 available. Thanks for help in solving my way to many resto questions!!
Thanks for the responders to my IP question. Next up: I am in need of a OP cover and I wish to remain HD aluminum stock in excellent to like new condition. The IPC for my year 76 calls for a 60508-82A. I can't find one anywhere in the condition I need. My ? are: Can I use a 60507-77 (77 to early 82)? Will it mate to my 60620-74 IP or do I need to change IP to a 60421-79a? What is the difference between OP -82a and -77 that I would need to be concerned about? There are plenty of -77 available. Thanks for help in solving my way to many resto questions!!
I believe we are right back to that 8 fasteners vs 9 fasteners "thing"... but it don't make sense that the "book" would call for a dash 82 part number on a 1976 Motorcycle??
Too lazy to look it up...so do you need a Footboard mount?? and how many holes???
My current IP (-74) is 8 hole. Negative on footboard. Looking at ipc page 175 as I type and OP is -82a for 71-76 models & -77 is for 77 to early 82.
How very odd those dash Numbers... confusing at best for me... but, 8 hole [mid] no board mount, I have one... but, I need to check condition..it has been in the barn a very long time..
Do you wanna try a tin one???? or are ya sticking to Original...as issued??
^^ Something very Odd going on here...
our '79 and '74 Both have 8 hole primaries, and the '82 up, I believe have 9 hole, and the .84 I believe is 9 but somehow different if Belt Final...
Guess I cannot figure out if you are referring to an FX style bike or an FLH style bike (you mentioned no footboard which ony applies to FX style bikes).
That said your reference number 60508-82A applies to the 9 hole inner primary 83 up FLH models. That would make it the 9-hole inner. The HD manual lists only 60411-79A and 60441-79 for FLH models. (8-hole inner)
60620-74 is the same number for the inner primary for my stock 1978 FXE (it is 8-hole).
The only difference I have found between the earlier FLH/FX series innners is that the FX has the additional hole in the inner primary for the mid control shifter.
I am laid up right now so I can't get you the part number on my outer primary but 60507-77 (77 to E 82 modles) is the only number listed in the FX HD parts manual for the early outer primary. It is an 8-hole. So, since we both use the same inner I see no reason you cannot run an outer the same as mine.
If you go to ebay and type in "harley davidson shovelhead outer primary covers" you will get several showing that rang in price from $50 to $300. the 300 number looks like parts taht have never ever been on a bike. There are several from the same seller at that price so he obvioulsy found a secret stash somewhere.
Part numbers are 60510-70 and 60506-77. Haven't clue on the differneces between the two.may by looking at the pisc closely someone can tell. Can't tell you why the part number in the book and the actual number stamped on the part differ, but I do know that as an owner of both Pans and Shovels this is not uncommon.
Last edited by panz4ever; May 8, 2019 at 05:35 PM.
cant beat a polished alloy one with mid controls. at one point i ran a tin one but you cant run mid controls.i thought you can use a 9 hole outer on a 8 hole inner
Guess I cannot figure out if you are referring to an FX style bike or an FLH style bike (you mentioned no footboard which ony applies to FX style bikes).
That said your reference number 60508-82A applies to the 9 hole inner primary 83 up FLH models. That would make it the 9-hole inner. The HD manual lists only 60411-79A and 60441-79 for FLH models. (8-hole inner)
60620-74 is the same number for the inner primary for my stock 1978 FXE (it is 8-hole).
The only difference I have found between the earlier FLH/FX series innners is that the FX has the additional hole in the inner primary for the mid control shifter.
I am laid up right now so I can't get you the part number on my outer primary but 60507-77 (77 to E 82 modles) is the only number listed in the FX HD parts manual for the early outer primary. It is an 8-hole. So, since we both use the same inner I see no reason you cannot run an outer the same as mine.
If you go to ebay and type in "harley davidson shovelhead outer primary covers" you will get several showing that rang in price from $50 to $300. the 300 number looks like parts taht have never ever been on a bike. There are several from the same seller at that price so he obvioulsy found a secret stash somewhere.
Part numbers are 60510-70 and 60506-77. Haven't clue on the differneces between the two.may by looking at the pisc closely someone can tell. Can't tell you why the part number in the book and the actual number stamped on the part differ, but I do know that as an owner of both Pans and Shovels this is not uncommon.
Great summary... it is the parts book that was F-'n me up..
I will continue to Ignore that part ...BTW I thought the early.. pre '69 or so, primary cover had no Derby cover... my '68 was like that..
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1976 Shovel OUTER Primary Interchangeability
