Parts compatibility help
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Just bustin yer ***** here but...a Low Rider would be an FXS... But... the point is well made... tho I have never seen a special construction title that had such BS onto it...and the year model was always the year the title was issued... Some folks obviously talk "smoother" than I
Now Insurance!!!! Them a-Holes decided an FXRS-SP was a Police Model... Dumb *****... try to fix that!!!!!!
Now Insurance!!!! Them a-Holes decided an FXRS-SP was a Police Model... Dumb *****... try to fix that!!!!!!
End of the day looking back at it 30 years later, the bike had some very questionable origins. Oh well, the 80's in the Big City.
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Mlake - very nice looking bike regardless of the composition
To the forum experts - it has been posted by forum members that the VIN pre-70 is on the engine legally. Post-70, legal VIN is on the frame. From 1930 to 1962 the VIN number was the engine number and was only located on the left case. The VIN was between 8 and 10 digits with the first 2 digits being the production year, the next 2 4 letters being the model designation and the last 4 digits being the production number.
The info above is a bit confusing...if the bike is titled and registered as a 58, wouldn't the VIN be on the engine?. Being the cases are STD, would that not make it Special Construction? I do not recognize the VIN on the frame as a Harley number so perhaps aftermarket which IMO no big deal since title/registration should follow the engine.
My post-70 has STD cases, however title/registration follows frame VIN..
To the forum experts - it has been posted by forum members that the VIN pre-70 is on the engine legally. Post-70, legal VIN is on the frame. From 1930 to 1962 the VIN number was the engine number and was only located on the left case. The VIN was between 8 and 10 digits with the first 2 digits being the production year, the next 2 4 letters being the model designation and the last 4 digits being the production number.
The info above is a bit confusing...if the bike is titled and registered as a 58, wouldn't the VIN be on the engine?. Being the cases are STD, would that not make it Special Construction? I do not recognize the VIN on the frame as a Harley number so perhaps aftermarket which IMO no big deal since title/registration should follow the engine.
My post-70 has STD cases, however title/registration follows frame VIN..
And 1970 on was VIN on frame neck boss on the Left side... Only
The Number you see in the photo above...on the right side downtube, is an assigned, special construction, VIN provided by the State of Mass. DMV...
After that... we Know Nuthing...
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From: Western Australia
Mlake, in your photo below whats going on with the rear downtube where I put the red square? Is the frame cracked? Also are there numbers on either side of the upper rear forging where I put a blue square? And are there numbers on the upper rear forging on the R-H side? If there are numbers on those upper forgings can you post photos please. Thanks.
Eric
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Im not home, but I will definitely check it out. Also, as im. Learning as I go, I may have been incorrect. I think I have STD heads with original cases. Where would I look for numbers ir other identifying marks?
Also, what would the steps be to get this bike on the up and. Up? New frame with an MSO, registered as a special construction bike? Even if I don't have any paperwork on the motor?
Thanks for all the help and input. Im blindsided here.
Also, what would the steps be to get this bike on the up and. Up? New frame with an MSO, registered as a special construction bike? Even if I don't have any paperwork on the motor?
Thanks for all the help and input. Im blindsided here.
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From: Western Australia
What marking is on the left case near the base of the cylinders? And on top of the cases at the rear it looks like there may be some numbers? Maybe three or four numbers on each case? And do they match each other?
Are there any markings at the front of the R-H case? Please let us know what you find.
Eric
Are there any markings at the front of the R-H case? Please let us know what you find.
Eric
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Hopefully, the number on the top of the left case between the "V" of the cylinders looks something like this (image courtesy of riding vintage)
It would be interesting to see what the title says...i.e. make, type, vin, and model year and if the VIN matches the case (vs special number on the frame).
Perhaps contact your local DMV to find out the requirements to properly title and register an old motorcycle. I believe requirements are different from state to state. For example in my state, a safety inspection is required from an authorized motorcycle safety inspection station in order to title/register a motorcycle. It is during this inspection that they match the VIN on the bike to the documents (title/registration/insurance)..
It would be interesting to see what the title says...i.e. make, type, vin, and model year and if the VIN matches the case (vs special number on the frame).
Perhaps contact your local DMV to find out the requirements to properly title and register an old motorcycle. I believe requirements are different from state to state. For example in my state, a safety inspection is required from an authorized motorcycle safety inspection station in order to title/register a motorcycle. It is during this inspection that they match the VIN on the bike to the documents (title/registration/insurance)..
Last edited by hscic; Oct 25, 2019 at 12:56 PM.
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Back in my days of retitling wrecked cars with 'rebuilt' titles, the cars were inspected by the DMV. I saw quite a few motorcycles confiscated. I had 2 DMV officers at my shop one day to take care of a paper work problem on a car .
When i walked into the back room,they were both kneeling down checking numbers on my Superglide!! WTF?? I just post this to add support to the poster that said the DMV are mostly not friendly people!
That bike looks like it could be a nightmare if some over zealous cop ever looks it over.
When i walked into the back room,they were both kneeling down checking numbers on my Superglide!! WTF?? I just post this to add support to the poster that said the DMV are mostly not friendly people!
That bike looks like it could be a nightmare if some over zealous cop ever looks it over.
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