Shovelhead A place to talk about Shovelheads.

Dry Clutch Problem.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 11, 2019 | 06:32 PM
  #1  
ArloCooper's Avatar
ArloCooper
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 8
Likes: 3
From: Auckland, NZ
Unhappy Dry Clutch Problem.

Hey guys,

Just after abit of advice.
Bought a Shovel with a blown gearbox (1976 FX) its got a dry clutch, with an open primary, no starter. I've bought a second hand 4 speed and mounted it. Swapped all the bits over clutch kicker and all, (bike came with no clutch cable) installed a clutch cable (supposedly oe part, length and all) but I cannot get the clutch to function at all. If the springs are set and the clutch adjustment screw is screwed all the way in till the clutch arm is pushed all the way back then backed off half a turn. Pulling in on the clutch arm doesn't give any movement what so ever. There must be something I am doing wrong. Inside the kicker cover the lever and all seems to be all aligned to the clutch rod. I believe all the clutch plates are in the correct way. Spring measurement should be pretty correct although I have a weird putter pressure plate different to most. But even then shouldn't there be a tiny bit of movement like the clutch is semi functioning? Just an fyi that the clutch was working fine when I pulled it off. Even though the gearbox was cooked the clutch still functioned.

Please any info would be highly appreaciated. Ive been going at this for a few months haha. I also have a workshop manual and it has hardly any info on this.

Thank you for your time,

Arlo.
 
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2019 | 07:21 PM
  #2  
Joe12RK's Avatar
Joe12RK
Seasoned HDF Member
10 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,154
Likes: 2,561
From: CT/FL
Default

usually the first adjustment is to get the clutch arm 5/8" from the starter so the lever inside the kicker cover is correctly aligned with the throw-out bearing. without a starter, IDK how you would verify that, but it's important, because the other adjustments work off that.

not a lot of help but that's all I got. hopefully one or two of the experts will answer soon.
 
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2019 | 09:06 PM
  #3  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,449
From: la la land jerzey
Default

the throw out bearing might have turned and not in the slot and now your pushing on the bell sideways

pull the kicker cover off and post up pictures if you need to many on here can help
 
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2019 | 07:42 PM
  #4  
Bumpandrun's Avatar
Bumpandrun
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 419
From: Vermont
Default

What John says....happens a lot. Just pull kicker cover like was said and check it all out.Plus side it will give you a better understanding of how it all works and you will,eventually have to go in there...chit happens
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:24 PM
  #5  
1981 suprglide's Avatar
1981 suprglide
Road Master
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 873
Likes: 159
From: FLORIDA
Default

wow you said a dry clutch is it a primo Rivera diaphragm clutch if so adjustment easy don't touch that cable just tighten her up and work with the middle of the clutch hub only you can do everything from there
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:33 PM
  #6  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,449
From: la la land jerzey
Default

only if your cable adjustment is correct to begin with
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2019 | 09:05 PM
  #7  
Racepres's Avatar
Racepres
Seasoned HDF Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 8,590
Likes: 3,360
From: Cental, MI
Default

Originally Posted by 1981 suprglide
wow you said a dry clutch is it a primo Rivera diaphragm clutch if so adjustment easy don't touch that cable just tighten her up and work with the middle of the clutch hub only you can do everything from there
All Shovelhead clutches are effectively Dry... By Design... the Oil is drooled onto the chain [as stock] and sucked out at the back of the primary..
The same clutch works fine with a sealed primary..long as you only put enough oil in to get some on the chain!!
As stated...even in the Good book... the Lever must be at optimum Angle...really the Fingers against the Throwout Must be at the correct angle of attack...to get proper function... You must start with the Lever at the correct position...and then proceed.
 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2019 | 08:19 AM
  #8  
1981 suprglide's Avatar
1981 suprglide
Road Master
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 873
Likes: 159
From: FLORIDA
Default

Originally Posted by Racepres
All Shovelhead clutches are effectively Dry... By Design... the Oil is drooled onto the chain [as stock] and sucked out at the back of the primary..
The same clutch works fine with a sealed primary..long as you only put enough oil in to get some on the chain!!
As stated...even in the Good book... the Lever must be at optimum Angle...really the Fingers against the Throwout Must be at the correct angle of attack...to get proper function... You must start with the Lever at the correct position...and then proceed.
you are so right I remember now mine had what you call the sump system which sucked the oil from the primary back through the oil pump was not a good system put a screwing on the oil pump because of the metal particles from the chain
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Rusty Axle
Shovelhead
17
Jul 7, 2021 05:20 PM
cc_Penguin
Touring Models
8
Oct 27, 2019 05:30 PM
lyndenjh
Shovelhead
21
Oct 10, 2017 10:58 PM
Cleetussnow
EVO
3
Feb 27, 2012 02:37 PM
Joshua
Primary/Transmission/Driveline/Clutch
9
Apr 11, 2010 03:01 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE