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Old May 19, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hellonewman
Your buddies site sucks to navigate through - you should tell him. I went to S&S and easily found the needed parts and prices for lifters only.
He doesn't sell stock replacement lifters, so you aren't going to find them on his site. His lifter product is a system, you will need the right lifters and the right blocks.

He is the only outlet for the product if you want it. They aren't for everybody. They are the right product if you want a hydraulic lifter but prefer a cam designed for solids in a pan or shovel. Or if you want to run an evo grind cam in your shovel or pan.

Dave is one of the best people I have ever dealt with in the business and super knowledgeable about engine stuff. It's best just to call him and have a notepad ready .
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by inverse121
He doesn't sell stock replacement lifters, so you aren't going to find them on his site. His lifter product is a system, you will need the right lifters and the right blocks.

He is the only outlet for the product if you want it. They aren't for everybody. They are the right product if you want a hydraulic lifter but prefer a cam designed for solids in a pan or shovel. Or if you want to run an evo grind cam in your shovel or pan.

Dave is one of the best people I have ever dealt with in the business and super knowledgeable about engine stuff. It's best just to call him and have a notepad ready .
Makes sense, I guess I was confused because Velvatouch was mentioned in a thread about replacement stock type lifters. I would think the market is bigger for a replica part rather than a system that cosmetically changes the appearance of the engine. Means Im not a buyer. Thanks for the info
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hellonewman
Makes sense, I guess I was confused because Velvatouch was mentioned in a thread about replacement stock type lifters. I would think the market is bigger for a replica part rather than a system that cosmetically changes the appearance of the engine. Means Im not a buyer. Thanks for the info
Cheaper to Buy and Evo than to try to make a Shovel into One...
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hellonewman
Makes sense, I guess I was confused because Velvatouch was mentioned in a thread about replacement stock type lifters. I would think the market is bigger for a replica part rather than a system that cosmetically changes the appearance of the engine. Means Im not a buyer. Thanks for the info
You expected a thread about lifters to stay on track? People are just trying to help.

I am sure someone with a discerning eye such as yourself could tell the difference between an OEM tappet block, replica tappet block and velva touch tappet block and I appreciate that about you! Your 66 thread is inspiring me to visually correct my 66 FLHP, at least from 10 feet away.

I certainly wouldn't spend the money on a velva touch setup if I was running a mild or stock cam in a shovel or pan motor.

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Cheaper to Buy and Evo than to try to make a Shovel into One...
your disdain for evo grind cams in shovel motors is heard my friend and you are correct a 80" evo will set you back about the same as a set of blocks and lifters from velva touch or S&S . Heck you can buy an entire evo bike for about half what an S&S crate shovel will cost nowadays
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by inverse121
You expected a thread about lifters to stay on track? People are just trying to help.

I am sure someone with a discerning eye such as yourself could tell the difference between an OEM tappet block, replica tappet block and velva touch tappet block and I appreciate that about you! Your 66 thread is inspiring me to visually correct my 66 FLHP, at least from 10 feet away.

I certainly wouldn't spend the money on a velva touch setup if I was running a mild or stock cam in a shovel or pan motor.



your disdain for evo grind cams in shovel motors is heard my friend and you are correct a 80" evo will set you back about the same as a set of blocks and lifters from velva touch or S&S . Heck you can buy an entire evo bike for about half what an S&S crate shovel will cost nowadays
just so you know

Just SO you know----------- most of the guys on and in this section - classic - its not listed as bobber or blended fake with a re construct title - its a classic section - have and are restoring what some have wrecked under the guise of making it mine - and this section is the place for those who are looking and spending time and m0ney at original NOS and most cases OEM parts

100 hack sites with man buns dudes carving up what ever - they love the idea of an evo cam in a shovel - its $2500 to do that and they are glad its as cheap as it is to do and when its done plus 3 or 4 years and 1500 miles they can throw away the live to ride shirt - as that's a lie

when answering in this section just keep in mind - we re machine oem lifter blocks and install oversize USA lifters and inserts - and a china part goes right on sloppy junk is us sites
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
just so you know

when answering in this section just keep in mind - we re machine oem lifter blocks and install oversize USA lifters and inserts - and a china part goes right on sloppy junk is us sites
just so you know I recognize your authority on the subject, it has always been and will be treated with respect no matter which site we are on

I see what this section and the panhead section are about

I didn't see any china parts in any of my responses all USA made parts, but I now understand I was wrong

we ever get over the pandemic and I will ride my OP 61 down to your place and buy you a cold one, hope that sets us right
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by inverse121
just so you know I recognize your authority on the subject, it has always been and will be treated with respect no matter which site we are on

I see what this section and the panhead section are about

I didn't see any china parts in any of my responses all USA made parts, but I now understand I was wrong

we ever get over the pandemic and I will ride my OP 61 down to your place and buy you a cold one, hope that sets us right
any time if you make it around lunch time on me we have a local Italian spot that makes the best spaghetti and red clams sauce you ever tasted - my zip for reference 07874 but its a hour and 1/2 no traffic < in jersey really - come across from the bridge to 287 south to 80 west exit 25
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 08:55 PM
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Seems the Eastern Lifter bodies are the only USA Made... I don't always have luck with S&S so... I'm gonna try to hoard all the OE hydro units I find...and Hope for the best... Or... Of course... Go Solids!!! I have had poor luck with roller Replacements... But would be tempted to try the Eastern Rollers...
Question to JZ.... Have you experience with the Eastern Rollers??
Thanks...
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 09:16 PM
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race they were always usa made BUT they have the china ones if I can remember I will give you the eastern number for the 1929 to 84 rollers

when I can get them I don't shy away from the japan rollers have had very good luck with those as well
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
race they were always usa made BUT they have the china ones if I can remember I will give you the eastern number for the 1929 to 84 rollers

when I can get them I don't shy away from the japan rollers have had very good luck with those as well
Please by all means... share the source of Any quality lifter parts for my dear Shovels!!! Appreciate it..
And we still have a Jig/Holder, and the "stuff" to replace rollers... did lots of them... in a Different Time and Place!!!
Would Rather Not... But... times being what they are....
 
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