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Sep 23, 2024 | 06:28 AM

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tld6008

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Way too much oil, original system dripped oil onto chain and what accumulated in primary was continually scavenged back to tank so very little was actually in the primary at one time.

Sep 23, 2024 | 07:37 AM

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bulldog1776

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Originally Posted by tld6008

Way too much oil, original system dripped oil onto chain and what accumulated in primary was continually scavenged back to tank so very little was actually in the primary at one time.

Ok, I'm trying to learn. With it being sealed now, would you say I should take inspection cover off and just make sure the bottom of chain is covered?

Sep 23, 2024 | 07:43 AM

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Joe12RK

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I find it easier to remove the derby cover, you also get a better view of the low part of the chain that way.

Sep 23, 2024 | 09:57 AM

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tld6008

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Originally Posted by bulldog1776

Ok, I'm trying to learn. With it being sealed now, would you say I should take inspection cover off and just make sure the bottom of chain is covered?

I also remove the derby cover and the oil level, with the bike upright, is just submerging the bottom few teeth on the starter ring gear on the clutch basket . I have heard that the volume at this point is 6 oz but I never measured it.

Sep 23, 2024 | 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tld6008

ok I think I understand now. I can look down through the derby cover with a flashlight to where those teeth are.

Thanks

Sep 23, 2024 | 11:54 AM

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Hey Man

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YES, that looks right assuming that the bike is on the side stand.
The primary CHAIN lives in an oil MIST environment not an oil BATH. If the oil level is too high the clutch plates and friction plates will just slide against each other.

Sep 23, 2024 | 01:03 PM

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tld6008

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Originally Posted by bulldog1776

ok I think I understand now. I can look down through the derby cover with a flashlight to where those teeth are.

Thanks

Here is mine with the bike NOT upright

Sep 23, 2024 | 04:42 PM

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Racepres

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Originally Posted by tld6008

Here is mine with the bike NOT upright

No Way I run nearly that much..contaminated Clutch Plates. Again...the Shovelhead clutch is Dry!! If contaminated the Best that happens is Slipping, Ther Worst..and most cxommon..Lurching, dragging , generally Grabby!!!
There is another Great reason I am Against Isolating!!!! The Second is that the primary needs to be sealed up anyway... for stock system to function!

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Sep 23, 2024 | 05:30 PM

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1981 suprglide

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don't put that stabilizer in there I did and had to take each clutch plate out and clean them they stop grabbing to sticky

Sep 23, 2024 | 06:15 PM

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Thanks guys. I just took some fluid out.

Here's some new pics this time on the side stand.

With this being isolated is this enough to keep my primary chain ok?

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