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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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my 80 shovel has a 4 speed trans with a rotary top, Iam having shifting problems from first gear into second,the bike is new to me so im not sure what has been done to it. when you accelerate and go to shift into second it just always goes into neutral. hope someone has some ideas for me, is it a linkage problem, rotary top , or trans ? thanks
 
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Old May 7, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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What is even more fun is a down shift from 3rd that puts you in 1st!! I have lived with it since 1982 when I bought this m/c. There was 'recall' on the early 1980 *** shifters. Found out about it in 1984 or 85 and bought the parts for the upgrade. I have been through the tranny, more than once,and even changed forks and gears. Everything fixed it for a short period of time, it is my opinion that mine still does and always has over shifted first and so must under shift second. This is based on the distance the shift arm moves and the fact that I have always had to add shims/thrust washersbehind the gear, on the lay shift. The tranny 'door' always wears from the constantslaming of going into first. It was/is a problem in the cow pie shifter. The constant wearing in the torque multiply linkage does not help. Oh the reason I have not gone back in and fixed this problem is simple, the tranny does not leak a drop anywhere and it is more work than a lazy old man want to do. With the sidecar on I no longer have to 'prove' anything to anyone.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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38knuckle,

When you say this is new to you can one take for granted that you did the couple adjustments available to you? Its been awhile since I've adjusted my clutch but I think there was a cable adjustment and one for the actual clutches themselves inside. Not intending to insult you if you've done that already.
 
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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Ive tried every adjustment possible, the trans was checked out by a good mechanic and he said all the internals were good. I have good clutch pressure it just seems everytime you go to click second gear it goes to neutral, then if you re clutch and try and shift again it usually will go in, no fun when your trying to beat on it alittle,
 
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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Does it lessen the issue if you shift a little sooner?
 
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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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it will sometimes go into second a lot easier if i shift sooner and alot slower then trying to get through the gears quick, Im sorry to say this but thats not how i ride, i need to be able to bang through the gears.
 
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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Look at the linkage That set up was jive from the start If it is sloppy get a V-Twin cat and look at parts 17-9869 HD part # 33187-79 You might have to go over size HD had a grease fitting that nobody knew existed therefore never saw grease. If your lucky it might be the shifter Good luck
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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thanks . ordered up some parts goin to try the linkage first, will let you know how i make out
 
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I don't have that year but my buddy does and I will be rebuilding his trans soon since he just grenaded his 80..[:@][:@][:@][]
 
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Old May 10, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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well the linkage isnt the problem,, trans is back out of the bike. I took the top off and nothing seems to worn of damaged, same problem still occurs on the bench. wont shift from first to second, the forks are straight and undamaged and so are all the gears, I am def up for some suggestions.. thanks please help
 
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