Help finding picture of 67 shovelhead frame
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Thanks for all the input. Seems to be fairly conclusive that the frame is a 1977 with the liklihood that the neck was replaced at some point in time. I did remeasure the rear blocks with the two holes mounted on the rear downtubes and they are 3/4" thick and 2-1/2" tall and 1" wide. With no VIN number it appears I'll have to get a assembly title to use it. Thanks again.
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flh80, I don't know why you'd make the gusset the SECOND thing to check for (after a VIN). At post #3 you mentioned the MoCo added the gusset in mid 68 and you also said: But that's no guaranty it could have been added to an older frame also.
In the case of a 65 or later H-D Big Twin 4-speed frame, the lack of a gusset only indicates up through early-68. And because a gusset could have been added anytime its presence doesn't necessarily tell us much.
The style of top engine mount is more likely to be a reliable indicator as are the types of lower rear castings. And certain other things.
Regarding the picture you posted, I realise you've used it as an example of the gusset but I hope you don't mean the gusset would be the SECOND thing to check for on that frame? The top mount indicates 1970 or later for a start. SEVERAL things about that frame indicate the numbers on the lower rear castings are likely to have the 73 suffix and I'm not just judging by the appearance of those two castings. And what about the plate near the top of the seat post tube? That plate indicates way later than even 1973. Et cetera. Eric
In the case of a 65 or later H-D Big Twin 4-speed frame, the lack of a gusset only indicates up through early-68. And because a gusset could have been added anytime its presence doesn't necessarily tell us much.
The style of top engine mount is more likely to be a reliable indicator as are the types of lower rear castings. And certain other things.
Regarding the picture you posted, I realise you've used it as an example of the gusset but I hope you don't mean the gusset would be the SECOND thing to check for on that frame? The top mount indicates 1970 or later for a start. SEVERAL things about that frame indicate the numbers on the lower rear castings are likely to have the 73 suffix and I'm not just judging by the appearance of those two castings. And what about the plate near the top of the seat post tube? That plate indicates way later than even 1973. Et cetera. Eric
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flh80, I don't know why you'd make the gusset the SECOND thing to check for (after a VIN). At post #3 you mentioned the MoCo added the gusset in mid 68 and you also said: ‘But that's no guaranty it could have been added to an older frame also.’
In the case of a 65 or later H-D Big Twin 4-speed frame, the lack of a gusset only indicates up through early-68. And because a gusset could have been added anytime its presence doesn't necessarily tell us much.
The style of top engine mount is more likely to be a reliable indicator as are the types of lower rear castings. And certain other things.
Regarding the picture you posted, I realise you've used it as an example of the gusset but I hope you don't mean the gusset would be the SECOND thing to check for on that frame? The top mount indicates 1970 or later for a start. SEVERAL things about that frame indicate the numbers on the lower rear castings are likely to have the 73 suffix and I'm not just judging by the appearance of those two castings. And what about the plate near the top of the seat post tube? That plate indicates way later than even 1973. Et cetera. Eric
In the case of a 65 or later H-D Big Twin 4-speed frame, the lack of a gusset only indicates up through early-68. And because a gusset could have been added anytime its presence doesn't necessarily tell us much.
The style of top engine mount is more likely to be a reliable indicator as are the types of lower rear castings. And certain other things.
Regarding the picture you posted, I realise you've used it as an example of the gusset but I hope you don't mean the gusset would be the SECOND thing to check for on that frame? The top mount indicates 1970 or later for a start. SEVERAL things about that frame indicate the numbers on the lower rear castings are likely to have the 73 suffix and I'm not just judging by the appearance of those two castings. And what about the plate near the top of the seat post tube? That plate indicates way later than even 1973. Et cetera. Eric
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speeding big twin is the man when it comes to IDing anything Harley
think about the rear part number with the dash 73 part numbers - it can not be a 67 unit those parts were not made until 1973 and NO one replaced them, those frames are cheaper then the work to replace the entire back half
think about the rear part number with the dash 73 part numbers - it can not be a 67 unit those parts were not made until 1973 and NO one replaced them, those frames are cheaper then the work to replace the entire back half
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