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Road Warrior
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From: SoCal
johnjzjz,
Well I just about fell outta my chair!
You tested the turbolator and it made torque?!!!!
What engine and what else had been done to it.
Did ya test it with it being the only modification done from the engine's prior setup?
How much of an increase did you get with it?
Was there any trade-off elsewhere in the engine's performance?
This is very interesting. I haven't heard a good word about it before.
Well I just about fell outta my chair!
You tested the turbolator and it made torque?!!!!
What engine and what else had been done to it.
Did ya test it with it being the only modification done from the engine's prior setup?
How much of an increase did you get with it?
Was there any trade-off elsewhere in the engine's performance?
This is very interesting. I haven't heard a good word about it before.
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From: la la land jerzey
johnjzjz,
Well I just about fell outta my chair!
You tested the turbolator and it made torque?!!!!
What engine and what else had been done to it.
Did ya test it with it being the only modification done from the engine's prior setup?
How much of an increase did you get with it?
Was there any trade-off elsewhere in the engine's performance?
This is very interesting. I haven't heard a good word about it before.
Well I just about fell outta my chair!
You tested the turbolator and it made torque?!!!!
What engine and what else had been done to it.
Did ya test it with it being the only modification done from the engine's prior setup?
How much of an increase did you get with it?
Was there any trade-off elsewhere in the engine's performance?
This is very interesting. I haven't heard a good word about it before.
First i will say this , in 1995 we ended 20 years of iron head pro gas drag racing in favor of Buell road racing - with the help of tires and the harley dealers dyno ( edison HD in jersey now gone ) we campained an S1 lightning and in 1998 we won the USA national championship in CCS at mid ohio - i have the ball cap with the badge - i have the number one plate on the wall of the shop - and i have the picture of our race team with the principles at edison HD displaying the number one plate - with our bike that has one in it --
not every one is on the same page when it comes to what works and HOW to apply it - i hope i didnot come off as a smart ask it was not my intension, i have been a motor guy since 1965 and street racing in NYC metro was always my first love
you may not have had sucess with something i have used just as i have not with something you have used -- hopr that helps - johnjzjz
Road Warrior
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From: SoCal
Belated congrats on winning the number 1 plate!
So it was a Buell engine. I was sorry to see HD and them go their separate ways.
You did not come across like a smart-*** at all. You just got my attention when you had success with something that has been panned as snake oil.
I wish you continued success with your adventures in motorcycling...whatever they may be.
So it was a Buell engine. I was sorry to see HD and them go their separate ways.
You did not come across like a smart-*** at all. You just got my attention when you had success with something that has been panned as snake oil.
I wish you continued success with your adventures in motorcycling...whatever they may be.
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From: la la land jerzey
Belated congrats on winning the number 1 plate!
So it was a Buell engine. I was sorry to see HD and them go their separate ways.
You did not come across like a smart-*** at all. You just got my attention when you had success with something that has been panned as snake oil.
I wish you continued success with your adventures in motorcycling...whatever they may be.
So it was a Buell engine. I was sorry to see HD and them go their separate ways.
You did not come across like a smart-*** at all. You just got my attention when you had success with something that has been panned as snake oil.
I wish you continued success with your adventures in motorcycling...whatever they may be.
http://www.caimag.com/forum/showthre...Circle-Exhibit
the 19 th picture is our 1971 FLH we bought late summer last year restored it in the months to april when we entered in the AMCA judging, Oley PA april junior award - june rhienbeck NY senior award, and august hebron CT winners circle awards in the national judging circut -- than we were asked to join the motorcyclepedias exibit winners circle best bikes in the country -- ours its red 1971 FLH the 19th photo -
we travel to the AMCA events with some of the bikes from the shop and that includes a show restored 1921 Boardtrack racer, you should branch out and see what the real guys are doing with the motorbikes they ride and restore -- johnjzjz
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Road Captain
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Can I use an early EVO ignition module?
tons of takes off available...
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From: la la land jerzey
the later 7 pin for Big twins you have to install a special extra harness but then it becomes a plug and play ignition / the harness comes with coil , voes, and nose cone trigger wiring, the nose cone trigger that is also different, as well as the trigger cup the silver color one cant be used you need the Gold color trigger cup
Note //// they also have an 8 pin module but you would have to get a conversion kit to fit the 7 pin module harness, i do not believe they ever made a 8 pin conversion harness
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Road Captain
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I guess my sensor cup is the silver one 32401-80 and need teh gold one 32402-83, which should be direct replacemnet as well
My sensor is 32400-80 which should be good for bikes up to 95 I think
My ignition module is 32413-82 with 6 wire harness (no VOES)
I see on ebay is easier to find 91-up modules. Aside from the type of connector, is there any differentce with earlier versions?
I have no problems splitting wires, making new connectors etc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...5f5007&vxp=mtr
There is this screaming eagle one with 8000rpm rev limiter.. is that the only difference with stock ignitions? just rev limiter or somethiung else?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...f5db99&vxp=mtr
man... all this stuff for just putting a CV carb!!!
My sensor is 32400-80 which should be good for bikes up to 95 I think
My ignition module is 32413-82 with 6 wire harness (no VOES)
I see on ebay is easier to find 91-up modules. Aside from the type of connector, is there any differentce with earlier versions?
I have no problems splitting wires, making new connectors etc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...5f5007&vxp=mtr
There is this screaming eagle one with 8000rpm rev limiter.. is that the only difference with stock ignitions? just rev limiter or somethiung else?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...f5db99&vxp=mtr
man... all this stuff for just putting a CV carb!!!
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From: la la land jerzey
I guess my sensor cup is the silver one 32401-80 and need teh gold one 32402-83, which should be direct replacemnet as well
My sensor is 32400-80 which should be good for bikes up to 95 I think
My ignition module is 32413-82 with 6 wire harness (no VOES)
I see on ebay is easier to find 91-up modules. Aside from the type of connector, is there any differentce with earlier versions?
I have no problems splitting wires, making new connectors etc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...5f5007&vxp=mtr
There is this screaming eagle one with 8000rpm rev limiter.. is that the only difference with stock ignitions? just rev limiter or somethiung else?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...f5db99&vxp=mtr
man... all this stuff for just putting a CV carb!!!
My sensor is 32400-80 which should be good for bikes up to 95 I think
My ignition module is 32413-82 with 6 wire harness (no VOES)
I see on ebay is easier to find 91-up modules. Aside from the type of connector, is there any differentce with earlier versions?
I have no problems splitting wires, making new connectors etc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...5f5007&vxp=mtr
There is this screaming eagle one with 8000rpm rev limiter.. is that the only difference with stock ignitions? just rev limiter or somethiung else?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...f5db99&vxp=mtr
man... all this stuff for just putting a CV carb!!!
the first module is the correct choice 7 pin and the harness in your bike can be modded to fit it and you can add the purple wire doing it on the cheap - the later 8 pin could be done the same way, but you would have to convert the wiring as the colors are not exactly the same ---
the SE one is junk they were junk new and still junk today - all it did was increase the Rev limit that you do not need
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Road Captain
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I am ordering osme stuff this weekend... but still waiting to hear back from the mechanic and all the measurements and stuff....
anyway... opinions on oil pump and brather gear?
My 83 has the OEM oil pump, rebuilt not too long ago. No issues so far... it should be EVO style one, a little better than older shovelhead ones.
Is it worth upgrading to a newer S&S? or? I've seen both opinions
Breather gear.. any upgrades suggested? is the OEM plastic or somehting? wondering if is worth upgrading now or OEM is not an issue
tnanks!
anyway... opinions on oil pump and brather gear?
My 83 has the OEM oil pump, rebuilt not too long ago. No issues so far... it should be EVO style one, a little better than older shovelhead ones.
Is it worth upgrading to a newer S&S? or? I've seen both opinions
Breather gear.. any upgrades suggested? is the OEM plastic or somehting? wondering if is worth upgrading now or OEM is not an issue
tnanks!
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From: la la land jerzey
I am ordering osme stuff this weekend... but still waiting to hear back from the mechanic and all the measurements and stuff....
anyway... opinions on oil pump and brather gear?
My 83 has the OEM oil pump, rebuilt not too long ago. No issues so far... it should be EVO style one, a little better than older shovelhead ones.
Is it worth upgrading to a newer S&S? or? I've seen both opinions
Breather gear.. any upgrades suggested? is the OEM plastic or somehting? wondering if is worth upgrading now or OEM is not an issue
tnanks!
anyway... opinions on oil pump and brather gear?
My 83 has the OEM oil pump, rebuilt not too long ago. No issues so far... it should be EVO style one, a little better than older shovelhead ones.
Is it worth upgrading to a newer S&S? or? I've seen both opinions
Breather gear.. any upgrades suggested? is the OEM plastic or somehting? wondering if is worth upgrading now or OEM is not an issue
tnanks!
they do make nice steel breathers today Ultma has a good one, and S&S has a lengthened oil spray timing hole that seems to do what hey say it does - do throw the plastic one away - in my shop if we remove the cam cover for any reason it gets a steel one before the job is done - in a shovel the jury is out on the reed breather, if its the right thing to do with a shovel i believe it is, this year i have a 81 FLT i am doing up for the shop as a parts / lunch , loaner or what ever and will be putting in a reed to see, but i believe it will do the job as expected -- good luck with your almost done project -- johnjzjz
Last edited by johnjzjz; Nov 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM.