Pre-Ban Motorcycles
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Pre-Ban Motorcycles
So now we have the same scenario firearms owners faced in the 1990's when "assault rifles" were banned. Now the market for, and value of Pre-Ban motorcycles just became reality. Do you think the value of your Pre-Ban Motorcycle just increased?
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Depends on if there is a grandfather clause or not and when it takes affect. It could render them worthless like lowers without serial numbers. I'm hoping the value will go up though.
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ETA your point about blank lowers is well taken. Motorcycles are already registered with the federal government.
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HD may not modify your bike but there are a host of aftermarket companies that as of now still will. And until states start tailpipe testing bikes, it'll be a non issue (like here in NC.)
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BTW my daily driver is a 1992 Chevrolet K1500 Suburban. This was the LAST year for annual emissions testing for that vehicle. It's twenty-five years old. Safety only from now on. It's getting difficult to find an inspection station with a functioning dyno. NOBODY who owns an inspection station is willing to pay to keep one working.
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Cruiser
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Also, this now gives cops an easy way to write defective equipment tickets where they didn't have a local or state reg they could think up right then. Any bike with non-EPA pipes must have a non-EPA tune. All they have to do is listen for the loud pipes that save lives or take one look for the missing EPA stamp on your equipment and you're in violation.
As far as the Aftermarket companies coming to the rescue, it's not going to happen. In the EPA press release they warn aftermarket companies that they are subject to the same treatment Harley got if they manufacture, sell, or install "defeat devices" which is what they call any device that changes air/fuel from factory settings. It's over. I linked to the EPA's page on this containing the Consent Decree and Press Release in another thread. You should read it. Everyone should. Then you'd see that it's over.
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I'll be dead and gone before there are statewide EPA inspections. In TN its restricted to large municipalities.
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The '16 and below bikes that have their tune already have been in violation of federal law from the moment they were modified. Subject to defective equipment tickets whenever the local/county/state cops decide to start writing them. The real problem now is that Harley is no longer going to manufacture/sell/install any tuners or parts for any bike that will change the Air/Fuel mixture or otherwise run afoul of EPA regulations plus they are required as part of their deal to deny warranty service to any owner of a bike that has had said parts/tune installed and to report that denial to the EPA to prove their compliance with the deal. Aftermarket companies have been warned that they are subject to the same kind of lawsuit Harley got if they try on their own. That means the '16 bikes are the last ones built that you'll be able to richen up the AFM on. Plus it's going to get harder and harder to tune them as more companies stop selling the tuners and more and more tuners out there wear out. It's the end of an era.
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