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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 10:47 AM
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Can I skip stage I, and go directly to a torque cam change Stage II.....i am not interested in new mufflers or air filter..changes.

Mostly 2-up riding and torque cam would help.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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Sure,might run out of breath.
and mufflers may hold it back some.
it will be stronger than stock ,just not it’s full potential with the cam you put in it.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 11:35 AM
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I would at least go with an SE breather. Otherwise your leaving goodies on the table.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 11:49 AM
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I did the breather and TQ cam but left the stock mufflers.. Bike runs much better.. Don't know how much the air filter helped tho..
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 12:04 PM
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I think the stock pipe is a pretty good flowing pipe even with the cat. The biggest gain in decat was heat which is why I took it out and you gain some hp where its made in the hi rpm area. But if you're good with stock sound I'd do same as Max bet you'll like it
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by giacomo56
Can I skip stage I, and go directly to a torque cam change Stage II.....i am not interested in new mufflers or air filter..changes.

Mostly 2-up riding and torque cam would help.
assuming you're using the SEPST Stage II ECM calibration, not sure it would hurt anything..and if doesn't seem right for whatever reasons you can just bolt on one at a time or both SE intake and slip-ons at any time yourself without having to do anything else..keep us posted
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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I did stage 2 torque cam, high flow air filter, plus Power Vision tune. Stock pipes.

93hp and 108 torque. Runs great.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 06:25 PM
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I have stage 2,SEPST , hi flo air filter and Stock pipes. If You search utube You will find an M8 dyno from an Illinois dealer. When He changes stock to Screaming Eagle slip-ons, there is no horse power change. Besides the stock pipes are really light compared to most slip-ons. I had Street Cannons until the left baffle came loose and rattled. I exchanged and sold the new ones on ebay. Ran stock ever since.
 
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Keep the stock filter cover,switch up to the Screaming air flter insert.Even lifts the sound with a definite power gain!Even without the Cam.No sense to leave the small internal baffle pipe.For zero cost of removing the mufflers and grinding the baffle loose 2" inside the outlet end.Do one step at a time and see the difference yourself,then throw in the cam for the best value for the money upgrade, with a tangible result!
Leave the Cat,it has twice the capacity of the old Twincam.
 
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Get the K&N replacement filter for 50 beans.
 
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