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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Harleycruiser
And in the fuel injected bike there is a return hose (i believe) that leaks that is where your bubbles are coming from, that needs to be replaced.
Do a search for fi hose leaks.
IICRC: Most FI fuel line issues are caused by the fuel line rubbing against the inside of the tank, this causing pin holes in the fuel line.
I had to replace the fuel line in my 07 FXDB with a submersable fuel line I got from NAPA. Beats the heck out of replacing the tank innards just to replace the fuel line.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gommee
IICRC: Most FI fuel line issues are caused by the fuel line rubbing against the inside of the tank, this causing pin holes in the fuel line.
I had to replace the fuel line in my 07 FXDB with a submersable fuel line I got from NAPA. Beats the heck out of replacing the tank innards just to replace the fuel line.
Gommee is it the feed or return that are so notorious for leaking?
I'm a carb guy.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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Just to clarify the bike ran fine for at least 20 mins it wasnt until it warmed up and by that i mean oil temp was at 200 deg that it started acting up . After i shut it off i heard loud hissing from under the bike where the vent hose comes down i could see the fumes rushing out of the hose. I took the gas cap off and the fumes to the vent stopped I took a flashlite and looked INTO the tank and saw air bubbles coming up and out of the crossover fitting thats INSIDE the bottom of the tank. Those air bubbles lead me to believe that no fuel was crossing over when the gas cap was on . I didnt at that point try to run the engine without the cap however i left the cap off until the bubbles stopped . So im thinking the left side of the tank should have fuel in it now????
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Harleycruiser
Gommee is it the feed or return that are so notorious for leaking?
I'm a carb guy.
There should be 2 corrugated lines in the tank that are under pressure. One from fuel filter to fuel pump and one from fuel pump to quick connector.
They are both feed.
What you will see in the tank when the gas level is low is spraying in the tank. It is harder to see the gas swirling around with a full tank. You generally do not notice the issue as much when the tank is full. In most cases the hole are very small.
HD does not sell just the lines, only the assemblies. I got submersible gas line from NAPA and used spring clamps.

I still believe the OP's issue is more likely the gas cap venting. When things heat up, it causes more of a vacuum and fuel will not flow properly.
 

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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by challutz
Just to clarify the bike ran fine for at least 20 mins it wasnt until it warmed up and by that i mean oil temp was at 200 deg that it started acting up . After i shut it off i heard loud hissing from under the bike where the vent hose comes down i could see the fumes rushing out of the hose. I took the gas cap off and the fumes to the vent stopped I took a flashlite and looked INTO the tank and saw air bubbles coming up and out of the crossover fitting thats INSIDE the bottom of the tank. Those air bubbles lead me to believe that no fuel was crossing over when the gas cap was on . I didnt at that point try to run the engine without the cap however i left the cap off until the bubbles stopped . So im thinking the left side of the tank should have fuel in it now????
You don’t have two separate tanks, you have one tank with two halves connected over the back bone, and with a hose at the bottom so gas can flow from one side to the other when the tank gets low.
The hose has no way to get pressure from one side to the other because the two halves are connected. It will not bubble, it will not cause any excess pressure in the tank.
Your bike is fuel injected with a pump inside the tank, this pump pumps gas out and any excess comes back through the bottom return.
This is where your extra pressure is coming from in your tank, and probably what is causing the bike to run sluggish.
I am not a fuel injected expert, but know that there is a hose in the tank that gets pin holes and leaks. This is where you need to look, but like I said, I do not know anything about this because it does not pertain to my bike so I don’t pay attention to the details.
Gommee know more about this, that is why I am deferring to him.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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I still believe the OP's issue is more likely the gas cap venting. When things heat up, it causes more of a vacuum and fuel will not flow properly.
Well that would be pretty easy to check, by taking the lid off and like I said, just suck on it to test, or try running it with the cap loose.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:30 PM
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I still believe the OP's issue is more likely the gas cap venting. When things heat up, it causes more of a vacuum and fuel will not flow properly.
No thought about it if it is venting out the front vent then it has excess pressure in the tank.
This it the venting out vent.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:38 PM
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I vote e-10 gas. I have a film container sitting on my tool chest with filtered out e-10 junk. Looks like a brown gel. If you have a carburetor system you need to remove all fuel. Flush tank.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:40 PM
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There in NO return line to the tank. The gas goes through the fuel filter to the fuel pump to the quick connect to the injectors. The system is under pressure. There are two vents, one is the over flow hose that goes via the top of the tank along the backbone and down by the back tire and the other is the vent in the gas cap.
I have seen both the pin holes and the cap vent issues. One creates a vacuum and the other reduces fuel pressure. Both will show up as an issue when bike heats up.

Here is the link to the fuel line issue I found helpful in the Dyna forum. I know there are several other threads, but this is the one that helped me.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...fuel-line.html
 

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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael knowles
I vote e-10 gas. I have a film container sitting on my tool chest with filtered out e-10 junk. Looks like a brown gel. If you have a carburetor system you need to remove all fuel. Flush tank.
OP states he has Fuel injection and issue only shows up when engine temp gets hot. If it was bad gas or water in the tank issue would show up sooner.
 
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