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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 12:08 AM
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Has anybody ever had any traction issues after they installed the shotgun shock? I know it is supposed to help and maybe I'm feeling things that aren't really there, but ever since I put the system on whenever I go over some minor bumps or transitions on the road my rear tire feels like it "skips". I have played with this thing tons and found what I consider the sweet spot, not to much pogo effect, no bottoming out. I also feel as the rear tends to walk on me a bit in the corners. I really dig the system top quality product, but safety is a factor here if I'm not imagining things. Thanks for your input. This is on an 05 Deluxe
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 12:15 AM
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Never had any of those issues with my shotgun. In fact as far as tracking in the corners I actually noticed a decent improvement.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 07:43 AM
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I have only noticed improved handling and traction, none of the issues you speak of.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 08:14 AM
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Whaooooooooo Shotgun.......


That ones especially for you Tony.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dlynch851
Has anybody ever had any traction issues after they installed the shotgun shock?
I'm not sure how that would even be possible.
It's the same amount of weight on the same tire, right?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dlynch851
Has anybody ever had any traction issues after they installed the shotgun shock? I know it is supposed to help and maybe I'm feeling things that aren't really there, but ever since I put the system on whenever I go over some minor bumps or transitions on the road my rear tire feels like it "skips".
As far as I know, the Shotgun has no hydraulic damping, so some of this might be expected. Perhaps there's a little frictional damping.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 10:32 AM
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As far as I know, the Shotgun has no hydraulic damping, so some of this might be expected. Perhaps there's a little frictional damping.
Most users find that the ride is stable with the shotgunshock. There are two adjustable air chambers in the shotgunshock. One chamber holds the bike up and the second chamber holds the bike down, thus acting as a shock absorber or dampening. If after checking other factors of bike for wear that might cause instability the bike still handles unstable, I'll be glad to replace the unit. Worn swingarm bearing , wheel bearing and tire condition should be checked as instability can be caused by these conditions.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by J.D.1
There are two adjustable air chambers in the shotgunshock. One chamber holds the bike up and the second chamber holds the bike down, thus acting as a shock absorber or dampening.
Two opposing springs wouldn't really provide significant dampening. Add the bounce from the tire, and you're bound to have some sproinging goin' on.
Might not matter too much, if one doesn't take corners hard, and the surface is smooth. My boat trailer (which has no hydraulic damping) has taken some pretty good jumps and skitters sideways on bumpy corners.
 

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Tire condition and pressure would be the first thing I would check if it feels like the tire is "walking out from under you". Wheel and swingarm bearings would be next The only way I could think of where a shock would be the cause of this would be if it was too soft. If you are going to ride hard then you need to firm up the rebound.

As for the damping debate, I have heard it a thousand times. I do a lot of off roading and my current setup of shocks are actually quite similar to the SS. I fill the upper and lower chambers seperately (with nitrogen). The lower chamber controls rebound (and damping), the upper sets height. They work extremely well, although I cant adjust them on the fly. There are tons of other air shocks out there that work similarly. You dont need to have oil in a shock to have damping, the opposing force between the upper and lower chambers can achieve that. I will agree that the shocks I have used with oil usually have a better, or slower, damping, but to say that there is no damping in the SS simply becuase it doesnt have oil in the system is not true. In my experience there is sufficent damping in the SS for a safe and better ride than the other options out there. I am one who bought the system for function and performance and not the slammed look. I never ride slammed and dont even drop it when I park. I just like the ride quality and infinite on the fly adjustability. Here's to my pom poms.

I understand that Warp is not saying that, but I have heard it other places. The boat trailer comparison though is apples to oranges and irrelevant.
 

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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks for all the input. maybe I'm imagining stuff, figured I would take a stab and ask to see if any other similar instances have occurred.

I know the product is top quality, reason why I went with it. I will check out the other things JD mentioned and will go from there.
 
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