My Project Bike
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You remind me of someone who knows it all but really doesn't. Didn't even know how a springer works. No idea that Harley made springers with high mounted fenders...but you know how yours is.
You also know how much "YOU" would pay for a motorcycle...which is jack because your cheap.
Problem is your advice and comments are not "The Only Ones" out there...yet you want to ram them down my throat.
Sorry bud I lost interest in your advice after you bitched about my fender and then proceeded to not read my comments and tell me how it should be...which was wrong.
You also know how much "YOU" would pay for a motorcycle...which is jack because your cheap.
Problem is your advice and comments are not "The Only Ones" out there...yet you want to ram them down my throat.
Sorry bud I lost interest in your advice after you bitched about my fender and then proceeded to not read my comments and tell me how it should be...which was wrong.
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Dude, I came on this forum to learn more about Harley's get advice and you come on my very first post and tell me how screwed up my bike is, call it a bastard and tell me it ain't worth ****. How would you feel?
I can get that bullshit at home from my wife. You've basically made this a waste of time. Thanks.
I can get that bullshit at home from my wife. You've basically made this a waste of time. Thanks.
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Sounds like you bought the bike to "flip" and make some money on it...should have done more research before you bought it.
While "springer" bikes generally bring more money than a "regular" softail..."dirtbike" springers are the redheaded stepchild of the springer world and most people that want springers... don't want them.
"Specical construction" bikes are not Harleys, and are very difficult to sell...lots of insurance companys will not insure them. If you advertise it as a specical construction...don't expect your phone to ring much...even at a givaway price...if you don't advertise it as a specical construction...expect your buyer to run screaming as soon as he sees the title.
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Dude, I came on this forum to learn more about Harley's get advice and you come on my very first post and tell me how screwed up my bike is, call it a bastard and tell me it ain't worth ****. How would you feel?
I can get that bullshit at home from my wife. You've basically made this a waste of time. Thanks.
I can get that bullshit at home from my wife. You've basically made this a waste of time. Thanks.
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Sounds like you bought the bike to "flip" and make some money on it...should have done more research before you bought it.
While "springer" bikes generally bring more money than a "regular" softail..."dirtbike" springers are the redheaded stepchild of the springer world and most people that want springers... don't want them.
"Specical construction" bikes are not Harleys, and are very difficult to sell...lots of insurance companys will not insure them. If you advertise it as a specical construction...don't expect your phone to ring much...even at a givaway price...if you don't advertise it as a specical construction...expect your buyer to run screaming as soon as he sees the title.
While "springer" bikes generally bring more money than a "regular" softail..."dirtbike" springers are the redheaded stepchild of the springer world and most people that want springers... don't want them.
"Specical construction" bikes are not Harleys, and are very difficult to sell...lots of insurance companys will not insure them. If you advertise it as a specical construction...don't expect your phone to ring much...even at a givaway price...if you don't advertise it as a specical construction...expect your buyer to run screaming as soon as he sees the title.
Tom,
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
Yes the bike is a flip. I restore and build bikes. I can't keep them all, and I generally try to find a couple bikes a year that I can make a little on to support the rest of my projects.
I felt like this one had the potential to double my money, but based on what you are saying maybe a little less. No matter how I look at it I will be okay because I didn't pay that much. I might just keep it for a while.
A couple of more questions. Is special construction a "bad thing" to Harley people (those that know). It seems like knowledge is the enemy here because there are a lot of people who feel S&S engines are pretty good, some say they are better than OEM. It's bothersome that name components can be devalued so much. Probably market saturation. I know if there were clone Norton engines out there they would command a big price.
Why do big clone manufacturer's command such high prices? I see many name builder's bikes used and they still are priced high? Would it make any difference if my bike were built by a name builder?
Sorry for all the questions but there is so much information in all different directions out there makes it very hard to weed through it. We tend to look for what we want to see which makes it even harder to make sense of it.
Edit: I had no problem getting insurance on it. Had to send some pictures but that was all.
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Is special construction a "bad thing" to Harley people (those that know).
Why do big clone manufacturer's command such high prices? I see many name builder's bikes used and they still are priced high? Would it make any difference if my bike were built by a name builder?
Edit: I had no problem getting insurance on it. Had to send some pictures but that was all.
Specical construction is a bad thing to a lot of people...because you have no clue to who built it and what their skill level was.
Most of the big clone manufacturers are out of business, and their bikes sell for pennies on the dollar of what they were new.
Even if you had no problem getting insurance...expect a big problem if the bike is a total loss...there is no "blue book " value to look at...so they can give you whatever they want..and you don't have a leg to stand on.
If the bike was a brand name clone manufactuer ...like big dog or titan...you would have book value and that could even work in your favor...because the book value on some of those 40k+ when new bikes, is still higher than what they actually sell for in the real world.
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I set a value on the insurance. It's much like doing a classic car because they run all over the map. The underwriters had to approve it and that's why they asked for pictures.
I appreciate your comments. They made the most sense. The Big clone manufacturers prices were one of the things throwing me off. I think I have a handle on it. It really bowls down to what someone will pay for it and given that it's a special construction the market may be small unless the price is lower.
The bike shows very well and is constructed very well. There is nothing cheap or shoddy on it. The guy that built it used the best parts. It runs really strong, no smoke, sounds nice. I thought from the beginning it fell in the $7-8K range mainly because it is so nice. I may start there even if it will reduce the number of buyers. I don't have to sell it so can wait for the right buyer. If it doesn't sell, like I said I may just ride it for a while.
I appreciate your comments. They made the most sense. The Big clone manufacturers prices were one of the things throwing me off. I think I have a handle on it. It really bowls down to what someone will pay for it and given that it's a special construction the market may be small unless the price is lower.
The bike shows very well and is constructed very well. There is nothing cheap or shoddy on it. The guy that built it used the best parts. It runs really strong, no smoke, sounds nice. I thought from the beginning it fell in the $7-8K range mainly because it is so nice. I may start there even if it will reduce the number of buyers. I don't have to sell it so can wait for the right buyer. If it doesn't sell, like I said I may just ride it for a while.
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I know it's not what you want to hear but the genuine article is only going for $5-7k right now (early 90s springers). I think you've got a tough sell there with no brand name behind the bike, mix of parts, and the paint job.