Softail Models Standard, Custom, Night Train, Deuce, Springer, Heritage, Fatboy, Deluxe, Rocker and Cross Bones.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is Flexural Rigidity a bad thing?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-10-2017, 11:29 AM
Flufebunekilr's Avatar
Flufebunekilr
Flufebunekilr is offline
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Cherry
Posts: 44
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default Is Flexural Rigidity a bad thing?

The 2018 M8 Softail frames are supposed to be 34% stiffer than the older Harley's, tho are still designed to flex in certain areas. I remember before 2009 there were stabilizers being sold for the touring models on this issue. To my knowledge frame flex and fork flex have always been a negative design and can cause "death wobble."

Article on 2018 Softails
Cycle world- "A bike with a flexy chassis transmits less of the rider’s steering effort to the front wheel while the rest gets lost in chassis, handlebar, and fork flex. - Harley-Davidson"

I know sport bike and other companies design flex sports in frame, just thought Harley Softails to be more rigid.

Is it impossible to create a bike with no flex or would that cause significant problems?
 
  #2  
Old 11-10-2017, 02:27 PM
Thingfish's Avatar
Thingfish
Thingfish is offline
Grand HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: coast to coast
Posts: 4,573
Received 911 Likes on 662 Posts
Default

My '74 Checker Marathon survived 159,000 miles of NYC potholes because it was designed to diffuse jolts and turbulence through frame flex based on 747 airline chasis design. I'm no engineer, but with zero flex you are asking for metal fatigue and fracture as well as transmitted stress of other parts and systems.
 

Last edited by Thingfish; 11-10-2017 at 02:28 PM.
The following 2 users liked this post by Thingfish:
Flufebunekilr (11-10-2017), TORQUEY (11-10-2017)
  #3  
Old 11-10-2017, 08:37 PM
TORQUEY's Avatar
TORQUEY
TORQUEY is offline
Ultimate HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: East Coast
Posts: 5,159
Received 175 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Thingfish
My '74 Checker Marathon survived 159,000 miles of NYC potholes because it was designed to diffuse jolts and turbulence through frame flex based on 747 airline chasis design. I'm no engineer, but with zero flex you are asking for metal fatigue and fracture as well as transmitted stress of other parts and systems.
 
  #4  
Old 11-10-2017, 09:37 PM
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Max Headflow is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: poway
Posts: 16,099
Received 5,252 Likes on 3,626 Posts
Default

Don't worry about it.. While the new bikes are stiffer, there is still plenty of flex.. The good thing is, no rubber mounts.
 
  #5  
Old 11-10-2017, 10:07 PM
Flufebunekilr's Avatar
Flufebunekilr
Flufebunekilr is offline
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Cherry
Posts: 44
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

@Max Headflow, I have never owned a rubber mounted bike. I rode a 2017 Lowrider which was nice. What do you not like about rubber mounts?
 
  #6  
Old 11-11-2017, 01:16 AM
Thingfish's Avatar
Thingfish
Thingfish is offline
Grand HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: coast to coast
Posts: 4,573
Received 911 Likes on 662 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TORQUEY
Yup. The Marathon was 12 inches longer than the regular Checker model used as a cab. Weighed 3 tons. Had a 405 V8. It was an unkillable beast.
 
  #7  
Old 11-11-2017, 09:17 AM
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Max Headflow is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: poway
Posts: 16,099
Received 5,252 Likes on 3,626 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Flufebunekilr
@Max Headflow, I have never owned a rubber mounted bike. I rode a 2017 Lowrider which was nice. What do you not like about rubber mounts?
They wear out, cause vibration, handling issues and require maintenance. They are nice because of lower vibes when functioning correctly. Go over to the dyna section and look at the discussions on mounts.
 
The following users liked this post:
Flufebunekilr (11-11-2017)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
btrain77
2014-2023 Touring Models
11
07-19-2020 11:09 AM
jcasarez2000
Ironhead
8
02-07-2018 07:33 AM
hellonewman
General Harley Davidson Chat
41
02-04-2018 09:27 AM
bluzman24
General Harley Davidson Chat
28
10-08-2016 05:57 PM
evilrider
General Topics/Tech Tips
8
08-02-2016 01:39 PM



Quick Reply: Is Flexural Rigidity a bad thing?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM.