Transmission issues maybe ?
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Update: here a slight noise when when I turn the trans in neutral sounds like it's coming from the input shaft bearing... Need a bar to listen to make sure that's where it's coming from. 😂 New school kid old school ways
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I looked at my old '97 service manual.....
There is no mention of play at/with the clutch plates in the service manual... It tells how to inspect (measure) them, replace them and how to use the spring compression tool to remove/replace the clutch spring. It does say to check each steel plate for flatness in several places with a feeler gauge and replace any plate that is warped more than 0.006". So I guess if you think the "play" in the clutch plates is because the steel plates are warped, you need new steel plates at a minimum.
If you are talking about the clutch hub bearing, the service manual doesn't mention any play with that bearing. It says to check for smoothness, "Check the bearing for smoothness by rotating the clutch shell while holding the clutch hub. If the bearing is rough or binds it must be replaced".
If you're talking about the bearing in the back of the primary chaincase cover, the service manual tells how to align the engine/transmission/primary chaincase cover, when installing a new chaincase bearing. It says if you are using the old chaincase bearing, no re-alignment is necessary. There is no mention of bearing play. It seems to suggest there shouldn't be any lateral play since a new bearing requires a re-alignment. But that's a guess on my part ..
Don't know if any of this is helpful at all, but that '97 was long ago and I wasn't doing nearly as much work on that bike as I am doing on my bikes now....
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Been awhile since I've been in the primary of an EVO.... I had someone show me how to adjust the clutch on a '97 EVO softail, and that was the last time I was in the primary of that bike.... very little independent memory of that......
I looked at my old '97 service manual.....
There is no mention of play at/with the clutch plates in the service manual... It tells how to inspect (measure) them, replace them and how to use the spring compression tool to remove/replace the clutch spring. It does say to check each steel plate for flatness in several places with a feeler gauge and replace any plate that is warped more than 0.006". So I guess if you think the "play" in the clutch plates is because the steel plates are warped, you need new steel plates at a minimum.
If you are talking about the clutch hub bearing, the service manual doesn't mention any play with that bearing. It says to check for smoothness, "Check the bearing for smoothness by rotating the clutch shell while holding the clutch hub. If the bearing is rough or binds it must be replaced".
If you're talking about the bearing in the back of the primary chaincase cover, the service manual tells how to align the engine/transmission/primary chaincase cover, when installing a new chaincase bearing. It says if you are using the old chaincase bearing, no re-alignment is necessary. There is no mention of bearing play. It seems to suggest there shouldn't be any lateral play since a new bearing requires a re-alignment. But that's a guess on my part ..
Don't know if any of this is helpful at all, but that '97 was long ago and I wasn't doing nearly as much work on that bike as I am doing on my bikes now....
I looked at my old '97 service manual.....
There is no mention of play at/with the clutch plates in the service manual... It tells how to inspect (measure) them, replace them and how to use the spring compression tool to remove/replace the clutch spring. It does say to check each steel plate for flatness in several places with a feeler gauge and replace any plate that is warped more than 0.006". So I guess if you think the "play" in the clutch plates is because the steel plates are warped, you need new steel plates at a minimum.
If you are talking about the clutch hub bearing, the service manual doesn't mention any play with that bearing. It says to check for smoothness, "Check the bearing for smoothness by rotating the clutch shell while holding the clutch hub. If the bearing is rough or binds it must be replaced".
If you're talking about the bearing in the back of the primary chaincase cover, the service manual tells how to align the engine/transmission/primary chaincase cover, when installing a new chaincase bearing. It says if you are using the old chaincase bearing, no re-alignment is necessary. There is no mention of bearing play. It seems to suggest there shouldn't be any lateral play since a new bearing requires a re-alignment. But that's a guess on my part ..
Don't know if any of this is helpful at all, but that '97 was long ago and I wasn't doing nearly as much work on that bike as I am doing on my bikes now....
The clutch basket bearing in the back with the splines in the center now is the whole peace supposed to spin or just the bearing because it dont... Yes alot of it does help I tried finding a manual online... Don't have alot of money to spend on a $70 manual right now lol.. thank you when you hold the basket assembly put your fingers on the front center plate that is what has play in it. Like I said the bearing don't really want to move. The bearing on the primary trans shaft has no play ether just wondering about the noise.. may replace it while im there.
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The clutch basket bearing in the back with the splines in the center now is the whole peace supposed to spin or just the bearing because it dont... Yes alot of it does help I tried finding a manual online... Don't have alot of money to spend on a $70 manual right now lol.. thank you when you hold the basket assembly put your fingers on the front center plate that is what has play in it. Like I said the bearing don't really want to move. The bearing on the primary trans shaft has no play ether just wondering about the noise.. may replace it while im there.
The clutch basket bearing in the back with the splines in the center now is the whole peace supposed to spin or just the bearing because it dont... Yes alot of it does help I tried finding a manual online... Don't have alot of money to spend on a $70 manual right now lol.. thank you when you hold the basket assembly put your fingers on the front center plate that is what has play in it. Like I said the bearing don't really want to move. The bearing on the primary trans shaft has no play ether just wondering about the noise.. may replace it while im there.
When you say bearing on the primary trans shaft, are you talking about a bearing in the trans case, or the bearing in the primary chaincase that the trans shaft comes through.....?
If you replace the bearing in the chaincase, there is a procedure where you must re-align the engine/trans/primary chaincase with each other....
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The clutch hub bearing is pressed into the clutch hub... so if I understand you correctly, just the bearing is supposed to move...
When you say bearing on the primary trans shaft, are you talking about a bearing in the trans case, or the bearing in the primary chaincase that the trans shaft comes through.....?
If you replace the bearing in the chaincase, there is a procedure where you must re-align the engine/trans/primary chaincase with each other....
When you say bearing on the primary trans shaft, are you talking about a bearing in the trans case, or the bearing in the primary chaincase that the trans shaft comes through.....?
If you replace the bearing in the chaincase, there is a procedure where you must re-align the engine/trans/primary chaincase with each other....
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I didn't pay any attention to the year on your bike. I was thinking TC when I talked about the inner bearing having a race.
How bad is the starter drive gear chewed up? The teeth on that rig gear show some fair damage. That could easily be where the chips you found came from.
How bad is the starter drive gear chewed up? The teeth on that rig gear show some fair damage. That could easily be where the chips you found came from.
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I didn't pay any attention to the year on your bike. I was thinking TC when I talked about the inner bearing having a race.
How bad is the starter drive gear chewed up? The teeth on that rig gear show some fair damage. That could easily be where the chips you found came from.
How bad is the starter drive gear chewed up? The teeth on that rig gear show some fair damage. That could easily be where the chips you found came from.
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