Start/Side stand lock system doesn’t work
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Start/Side stand lock system doesn’t work
Hey there guys need your help once more...
today I had a problem with my 08 xbones.
the problem occurred to my side stand system:
- with the side stand open (down) and the message displayed (side stand) the ignition on and the switch on run .... the engine started!!! But it was supposed not to! This was never happened till today!
Why is that? Any suggestions?
Am I posting it in the right forums??
tks in advance to you all!
today I had a problem with my 08 xbones.
the problem occurred to my side stand system:
- with the side stand open (down) and the message displayed (side stand) the ignition on and the switch on run .... the engine started!!! But it was supposed not to! This was never happened till today!
Why is that? Any suggestions?
Am I posting it in the right forums??
tks in advance to you all!
Last edited by Maskio; Mar 2, 2020 at 06:23 AM. Reason: Words missing
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From the manual
Some international models are equipped with a jiffy stand interlock feature.
If the rider attempts to start the engine or pushes the starter button while the transmission is in
gear and the jiffy stand is down, then the jiffy stand interlock system will not permit the engine to
run. The message "SidE StAnd" will scroll across the odometer to indicate this to the rider.
Raising the jiffy stand (or putting the transmission in neutral) will permit the engine to run and
clear the message.
If your bike is in gear and the side stand is up does the engine start? Might have to raise the rear wheel off the ground just in case it does.
This is a quandary for sure.
Some international models are equipped with a jiffy stand interlock feature.
If the rider attempts to start the engine or pushes the starter button while the transmission is in
gear and the jiffy stand is down, then the jiffy stand interlock system will not permit the engine to
run. The message "SidE StAnd" will scroll across the odometer to indicate this to the rider.
Raising the jiffy stand (or putting the transmission in neutral) will permit the engine to run and
clear the message.
If your bike is in gear and the side stand is up does the engine start? Might have to raise the rear wheel off the ground just in case it does.
This is a quandary for sure.
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From: Italy
From the manual
Some international models are equipped with a jiffy stand interlock feature.
If the rider attempts to start the engine or pushes the starter button while the transmission is in
gear and the jiffy stand is down, then the jiffy stand interlock system will not permit the engine to
run. The message "SidE StAnd" will scroll across the odometer to indicate this to the rider.
Raising the jiffy stand (or putting the transmission in neutral) will permit the engine to run and
clear the message.
If your bike is in gear and the side stand is up does the engine start? Might have to raise the rear wheel off the ground just in case it does.
This is a quandary for sure.
Some international models are equipped with a jiffy stand interlock feature.
If the rider attempts to start the engine or pushes the starter button while the transmission is in
gear and the jiffy stand is down, then the jiffy stand interlock system will not permit the engine to
run. The message "SidE StAnd" will scroll across the odometer to indicate this to the rider.
Raising the jiffy stand (or putting the transmission in neutral) will permit the engine to run and
clear the message.
If your bike is in gear and the side stand is up does the engine start? Might have to raise the rear wheel off the ground just in case it does.
This is a quandary for sure.
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Check your sidestand switch , could be faulty , stuck in the up position ... you could try spraying it down with contact cleaner while working the switch in and out , in hopes that may fix it , but replacement is a better option . If spraying it helps , then you know what the problem is , not to much $$$ to replace .
You could also check for error codes , but in this circumstance where it's stuck in the up position , it may not register as an error .
https://www.hdforums.com/how-tos/a/h...e-codes-413169
You could also check for error codes , but in this circumstance where it's stuck in the up position , it may not register as an error .
https://www.hdforums.com/how-tos/a/h...e-codes-413169
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Check your side stand switch , could be faulty , stuck in the up position. You could try spraying it down with contact cleaner while working the switch in and out
Did the early bikes have a physical switch? Mine has a hall effect sensor.
The switch went faulty on my bike and would cause the engine to stop as I pulled up for a stop.
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Yup , agreed , tough one for sure ... just checked and the op's bike should be equipped with the hall sensor .. for international models . Your right !
I'm thinking ( if I read the manual correctly ) they're saying that the bike won't start if the bike is in gear and the kickstand is down , you will get a message , now , if the bike is in neutral and the kickstand is down , you will still get the message but you will be able to start the bike . Seems normal ...
What I don't get , is where it says " Raising the jiffy stand (or putting the transmission in neutral)will permit the engine to run and clear the message " The bike should not start " period " if it's in gear , with or without the kick stand up or down . . I can understand the bike starting with the kickstand down and in neutral , maybe the message on the screen is the bikes way of saying " your kickstand is down " just a warning to raise it .
The op mentioned that the bike started while the kick stand was down ( normal ) was it in neutral or in gear ?? If it was in neutral then I don't see a problem . I could be wrong , did this message just start showing up while the bike was in neutral and kick stand down ?
I'm thinking ( if I read the manual correctly ) they're saying that the bike won't start if the bike is in gear and the kickstand is down , you will get a message , now , if the bike is in neutral and the kickstand is down , you will still get the message but you will be able to start the bike . Seems normal ...
What I don't get , is where it says " Raising the jiffy stand (or putting the transmission in neutral)will permit the engine to run and clear the message " The bike should not start " period " if it's in gear , with or without the kick stand up or down . . I can understand the bike starting with the kickstand down and in neutral , maybe the message on the screen is the bikes way of saying " your kickstand is down " just a warning to raise it .
The op mentioned that the bike started while the kick stand was down ( normal ) was it in neutral or in gear ?? If it was in neutral then I don't see a problem . I could be wrong , did this message just start showing up while the bike was in neutral and kick stand down ?
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I apologize , I re read the post and I see now that the bike is still starting while in gear and the kick stand is down ...
The bike has a clutch switch , which I think could be faulty , possibly a short that's telling the ecm that the clutch is pulled in , when in fact it's not . I would start by checking the wiring and connector , I have heard that removing the switch housing and spraying some WD40 on it while working the clutch will clean up the dirt and debre , might fix it .
The bike has a clutch switch , which I think could be faulty , possibly a short that's telling the ecm that the clutch is pulled in , when in fact it's not . I would start by checking the wiring and connector , I have heard that removing the switch housing and spraying some WD40 on it while working the clutch will clean up the dirt and debre , might fix it .
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Check your sidestand switch , could be faulty , stuck in the up position ... you could try spraying it down with contact cleaner while working the switch in and out , in hopes that may fix it , but replacement is a better option . If spraying it helps , then you know what the problem is , not to much $$$ to replace .
You could also check for error codes , but in this circumstance where it's stuck in the up position , it may not register as an error .
https://www.hdforums.com/how-tos/a/h...e-codes-413169
You could also check for error codes , but in this circumstance where it's stuck in the up position , it may not register as an error .
https://www.hdforums.com/how-tos/a/h...e-codes-413169
yesterday i worked on it and sprayed the connector... it does the same but now it doesn’t it all the times.... something it works fine, sometimes does not! F..k!