Softail Models Standard, Custom, Night Train, Deuce, Springer, Heritage, Fatboy, Deluxe, Rocker and Cross Bones.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Inverted front end

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:23 PM
  #1  
Joe What's Avatar
Joe What
Thread Starter
|
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 2
Default Inverted front end

I posted this on the tech forum with no response so far.. Hopefully there is someone out there that can shed some light.. I have 08 Rocker, saw a rocker with the Ultima 58mm inverted front end, so I said cool i will do that.. Having said that, is this a straight swap out or is there hidden issues that i have to be aware of? Will my stock rotor/caliper fit, will i have problems with the 5degree rake it comes with??? I've emailed people who have done this but no response.. Thanks in advance...
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:48 PM
  #2  
DaddyKnuck's Avatar
DaddyKnuck
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 17,625
Likes: 1,665
From: Blairsville GA
Default

Your best bet might be to call Ultima. They probably have a tech rep that can answer your questions.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:53 PM
  #3  
Joe What's Avatar
Joe What
Thread Starter
|
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 2
Default

right.. Thanks
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 07:35 PM
  #4  
MCSarge's Avatar
MCSarge
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,029
Likes: 449
From: Michigan
Default

Here's some info for you:

Ultima® 58mm Inverted Front End Assembly

These Inverted forks were designed to use 84/99 FXST style Wheels
Assemblies with a Single Disc. Optional Dual Disc hardware is sold separately
• Triple trees are machined for, but do not include, both internal fork stop kit #5-242 or 5-251 or External fork stops #27-189 found in the Midwest Motorcycle Supply catalog (Section 3).
• Std Length is OEM FXST length

First this front end is made for the older style frame with a 7 inch neck. If yours is bigger it won't work.
Second the forks are designed to work with a 3/4 inch front axle, yours is I believe 25mm. So your going to need either a new front wheel or you'll have to see if you can get new bearings for your wheel.
Third since this is made for the older style frames your going to have to go internal or figure out a way to make fork stops for it.
Fourth, since it is made to accept 84/99 FXST parts means you'll have to change the brakes and rotor also. I believe these use an 11.5" rotor, I'm not sure what size is on an 08 Rocker.

Make sure if you try this that you keep your trail in specs. I believe the Rocker has a substantial factory rake.

I am using this front end on my 87 FXR with a 32 degree factory rake and will be upgrading everything to match the 84/99 FXST. Good luck with your project and let me know if you have any more questions.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 07:37 PM
  #5  
MCSarge's Avatar
MCSarge
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,029
Likes: 449
From: Michigan
Default

A couple of other things I just thought of:

I was told that if your going to use an inverted front end you should keep the rake on the neck at no more than 32 degrees. The way he explained it was that since the seals on the forks are below the height of the tire it puts more of a load on the top side fork seals and can cause it to leak. I don't know if this is true but since I'm at 32 I'm going to leave it alone. He also said that inverted front ends work better the more vertical they are mounted.

Also this front end uses a 1 inch neck bolt(?) and bearings.
Again good luck.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 07:52 PM
  #6  
Alain's Avatar
Alain
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,762
Likes: 12
From: north jersey
Default

jeees !!!! after reading all that stuff i'm more confused then i was before. someone here has a rocker with an inverted front end. I would think it's possible to do it with the rocker.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:00 PM
  #7  
MCSarge's Avatar
MCSarge
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,029
Likes: 449
From: Michigan
Default

If you use the inverted front end from Harley that's made for them, I'm sure it would work. He asked specifically about the Ultima 58 mm front end. Harley wants about 1300 bucks for their front end, you can pick up the Ultima front end for between 485.00 and 650.00 depending on where you shop and what rake and fork tube length you want.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:05 PM
  #8  
m i k e's Avatar
m i k e
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,344
Likes: 5
From: my house
Default

yeah graysfxcw gat a inverted front end
but that other one sounds good too
price is better too
good luck
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 09:18 PM
  #9  
Joe What's Avatar
Joe What
Thread Starter
|
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by MCSarge
If you use the inverted front end from Harley that's made for them, I'm sure it would work. He asked specifically about the Ultima 58 mm front end. Harley wants about 1300 bucks for their front end, you can pick up the Ultima front end for between 485.00 and 650.00 depending on where you shop and what rake and fork tube length you want.

Thanks for all the info, now i just need to chew it and see where i go from here..
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2010 | 05:19 PM
  #10  
masar's Avatar
masar
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 611
Likes: 2
From: Czech republic
Default

Anyone can give me exact specifications of correct inverted front end for Rocker so i will not make mistake? I plan to purchase new wheels so maybe axle size is not issue - i can order new wheels accordingly.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 AM.