TC 96 to EVO engine swap?
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Cruiser
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My current setup is fine, but if i go the route with the SE204 then im on my own, when i spoke with him about 2 weeks ago he didn't have a map for my setup (SE stage I, Samson baloneys, PCIII) plus the SE204 cams on an 07 FXST. Ever since i heard that bike i spoke of before, its on my mind.
Yeah Archer, looks like that bike made quite an impression on you! ...I can even feel your enthusiasm up to here
and it's working contagius man: I'm totally excited about this cam swap too! So, will be the same problem here then (currently K&N, Rush 2", PCIII). I think i'll call the people at PowerCommander (next week though) to see if they have some answer, and if not then i'll probably put a post here on the forum somewhere to see if someone has the map.
To be continued...
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Thanks Grimm, that's the kind of information I'm looking for.
I guess I'll try to bring down the idle by swapping to SE 204 cams, which would make me a lot happier already.
In fact, the high idle is the only thing that bothers me on the TC96 and that's why I had the thought about the EVO, but the idea is written off by now.
I guess I'll try to bring down the idle by swapping to SE 204 cams, which would make me a lot happier already.
In fact, the high idle is the only thing that bothers me on the TC96 and that's why I had the thought about the EVO, but the idea is written off by now.
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iv got se 204s in mine and love the sound of the lope plus iv got almost 95 ilbs of torque
Tourer
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Whether you "new bike" people want to admit or not, the Evo is a much better engine for reliability and longevity. As to answer the original question, No it cant be done with out some serious frame reworking.
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First of all, lowering the idle down on a carb bike is not healthly for oil pressure. It is also not what makes the bike have a potato-potato sound. The potato sound has to do with the single pin crank and the way the bike fires, in terms of timing.
If you want to change the idle for a lopy, almost ready to die sound, simply buy a Screamin Eagle Race Tuner and adjust the idle table as low as you want. Just remember you are dropping the oil pressure down too.
If you want to make the engine sound 'meaner' and more like a hot rod, change the compression and cam. Bump the compression to 10.5:1 and add a longer duration cam like the 211 or 257 along with some ported heads and Bassani Pro Streets and the bike will sound better than any Harley EVO you have heard.
If you want to change the idle for a lopy, almost ready to die sound, simply buy a Screamin Eagle Race Tuner and adjust the idle table as low as you want. Just remember you are dropping the oil pressure down too.
If you want to make the engine sound 'meaner' and more like a hot rod, change the compression and cam. Bump the compression to 10.5:1 and add a longer duration cam like the 211 or 257 along with some ported heads and Bassani Pro Streets and the bike will sound better than any Harley EVO you have heard.
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My current setup is fine, but if i go the route with the SE204 then im on my own, when i spoke with him about 2 weeks ago he didn't have a map for my setup (SE stage I, Samson baloneys, PCIII) plus the SE204 cams on an 07 FXST. Ever since i heard that bike i spoke of before, its on my mind.
and indeed, there's no map available for stage I plus the SE204 cams (or any other cams).
As some other people on this forum said already, the solution is to have it custom tuned (which is also depending on the kind of fuel you're usually running on) by a Dynojet Approved PC tuning center and that should be it.
I just got off the phone with the Power Commander technical support dept.
and indeed, there's no map available for stage I plus the SE204 cams (or any other cams).
As some other people on this forum said already, the solution is to have it custom tuned (which is also depending on the kind of fuel you're usually running on) by a Dynojet Approved PC tuning center and that should be it.
and indeed, there's no map available for stage I plus the SE204 cams (or any other cams).
As some other people on this forum said already, the solution is to have it custom tuned (which is also depending on the kind of fuel you're usually running on) by a Dynojet Approved PC tuning center and that should be it.
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Would you please keep us posted about this modification, Archer?
Hope you will be able to post a sound clip too.
By the way, I started another thread about lowering the idle by SE204 cams, here it is:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/engin...ower-idle.html
Good luck,
and hopefully we'll be hearing more from you soon!
Last edited by howolf; May 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM.
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First of all, lowering the idle down on a carb bike is not healthly for oil pressure. It is also not what makes the bike have a potato-potato sound. The potato sound has to do with the single pin crank and the way the bike fires, in terms of timing.
If you want to change the idle for a lopy, almost ready to die sound, simply buy a Screamin Eagle Race Tuner and adjust the idle table as low as you want. Just remember you are dropping the oil pressure down too.
If you want to make the engine sound 'meaner' and more like a hot rod, change the compression and cam. Bump the compression to 10.5:1 and add a longer duration cam like the 211 or 257 along with some ported heads and Bassani Pro Streets and the bike will sound better than any Harley EVO you have heard.
If you want to change the idle for a lopy, almost ready to die sound, simply buy a Screamin Eagle Race Tuner and adjust the idle table as low as you want. Just remember you are dropping the oil pressure down too.
If you want to make the engine sound 'meaner' and more like a hot rod, change the compression and cam. Bump the compression to 10.5:1 and add a longer duration cam like the 211 or 257 along with some ported heads and Bassani Pro Streets and the bike will sound better than any Harley EVO you have heard.
With an EFI bike you will need a tuner and the TTS is probably the best option for someone that doesn't have the means to spend a lot of time and money on a dyno as it has several maps that will be very close to your setup and you can fine tune the map with the v-tune program.. With the TTS it's also very easy to change the idle when you program the ECM.. Mine is set at 968 and with the 211's it sounds pretty wicked..
Good luck