Deluxe overheating ?
Deluxe overheating ?
Hello i was sitting in traffic today for around 30 minuets or so and my yellow engine light started to slowly flash.
The bike was extremely hot at the time the light came on and i am assuming it was an overheating problem.
I should mention my deluxe is a 2009 model and has had a thundermax and RS air filter installed along with V&H slip ons.
When get home i checked out the owners manual but all it mentioned was if you see the light come on any time apart from at startup please contact the dealer.
I guess my question is was this an overheating issue.?
Has anyone else had this problem.?
Could it be an issue with the stage 1 that i have had done.?
Its the weekend here so i will have to contact the dealer next week.
Looks like a quiet weekend.
The bike was extremely hot at the time the light came on and i am assuming it was an overheating problem.
I should mention my deluxe is a 2009 model and has had a thundermax and RS air filter installed along with V&H slip ons.
When get home i checked out the owners manual but all it mentioned was if you see the light come on any time apart from at startup please contact the dealer.
I guess my question is was this an overheating issue.?
Has anyone else had this problem.?
Could it be an issue with the stage 1 that i have had done.?
Its the weekend here so i will have to contact the dealer next week.
Looks like a quiet weekend.
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Our bikes have been up to 260 and no light has ever come on. Anything in the owner's manual about it?
I remember when I did some research on the Tmax, they had some weird but innocuous light "bugs" in them. Maybe that's one of them.
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I remember when I did some research on the Tmax, they had some weird but innocuous light "bugs" in them. Maybe that's one of them.
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No i had a look through the manual and there was no additional information at all.
I took my air filter of to check all was ok and found an oil build up behind the filter to the point were it had 4-5 drips drop down on to the motor.
Has anyone else had this problem ?
I took my air filter of to check all was ok and found an oil build up behind the filter to the point were it had 4-5 drips drop down on to the motor.
Has anyone else had this problem ?
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The TMax light is set to co me on when the engine is getting too hot, default I believe is 325 degrees. Dangerously high is you are using regular oil. Not something I would want to just sit on and wait. Pull over, shut down or ride the side of the road. Here in WA and other states that is legal on air cooled engines.
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I can't imagine engine oil temp getting as hot as 325. My nads are smoking and almost at combustion temp when my bike is at 260 and I'm stuck in traffic.
Had my air filter off a couple times and have never had oil behind it. Buddy of mine once overfilled his Ultra and it was running out the filter.
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Had my air filter off a couple times and have never had oil behind it. Buddy of mine once overfilled his Ultra and it was running out the filter.
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Something else you may want to consider is the "known issue" with Tmax, which I just experienced myself this week....an email to Zipper's and a post on here confirmed the CEL issue.... do you have any codes stored in your speedo?? ...like U1016?
here's the response I got back from Zippers:
The U1016 code simply represents the absence of the stock ECM.
Momentary gauge loss has been reported with a relatively small number of motorcycles using the ThunderMax system. If this condition does occur, simply cycling the main power switch will restore the gauges and lights to normal function. Doing this allows the Turn Signal Security Module or Turn Signal Module (as equipped), the instrumentation, ECM and various other sensors to regain proper synchronization. To date there have been no negative effects in regards to the running condition of the engine if this phenomenon should occur.
At your convenience it is strongly recommended that you check the motorcycle for Diagnostic Trouble Codes through the odometer and within the ThunderMax SmartLink software. In addition, make sure the battery cables are clean and secure, inspect the ground contacts for proper installation, clean any scale off of fuses and make sure that any non-original electrical accessories wired on the vehicle are not causing this condition. Temporarily removing or bypassing any accessory device may be a valid test.
So far, we have been unable to reproduce this random event on our test motorcycles with modules that have had this issue in the field. We will continue to monitor and test for a possible cause and, of course, a cure when or if the cause is identified.
Its the weekend here so i will have to contact the dealer next week.
Looks like a quiet weekend.
here's the response I got back from Zippers:
The U1016 code simply represents the absence of the stock ECM.
Momentary gauge loss has been reported with a relatively small number of motorcycles using the ThunderMax system. If this condition does occur, simply cycling the main power switch will restore the gauges and lights to normal function. Doing this allows the Turn Signal Security Module or Turn Signal Module (as equipped), the instrumentation, ECM and various other sensors to regain proper synchronization. To date there have been no negative effects in regards to the running condition of the engine if this phenomenon should occur.
At your convenience it is strongly recommended that you check the motorcycle for Diagnostic Trouble Codes through the odometer and within the ThunderMax SmartLink software. In addition, make sure the battery cables are clean and secure, inspect the ground contacts for proper installation, clean any scale off of fuses and make sure that any non-original electrical accessories wired on the vehicle are not causing this condition. Temporarily removing or bypassing any accessory device may be a valid test.
So far, we have been unable to reproduce this random event on our test motorcycles with modules that have had this issue in the field. We will continue to monitor and test for a possible cause and, of course, a cure when or if the cause is identified.
Its the weekend here so i will have to contact the dealer next week.
Looks like a quiet weekend.
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It's not the oil temp... it's the head temp sensor....
you can set what temp you want your light to come on at....
I would hook it up and check it out... I would also take a look to see if you have any diagnostic codes
you can set what temp you want your light to come on at....
I would hook it up and check it out... I would also take a look to see if you have any diagnostic codes
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Thank you all for your information.
I will be plugging it in to the laptop to get a diagnostic ASAP and perhaps even an oil change.
Its interesting that you can set the temp sensor in the Tmax. I wonder why they chose 325 as a deFault temp as it is as you say damgeriously high.
I will be lowering it so that i have a little more time if this should occur again.
As i ride in traffic regularly what oil would you recommend that will give me best protection against heating issues.
I will be plugging it in to the laptop to get a diagnostic ASAP and perhaps even an oil change.
Its interesting that you can set the temp sensor in the Tmax. I wonder why they chose 325 as a deFault temp as it is as you say damgeriously high.
I will be lowering it so that i have a little more time if this should occur again.
As i ride in traffic regularly what oil would you recommend that will give me best protection against heating issues.
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Thank you all for your information.
I will be plugging it in to the laptop to get a diagnostic ASAP and perhaps even an oil change.
Its interesting that you can set the temp sensor in the Tmax. I wonder why they chose 325 as a deFault temp as it is as you say damgeriously high.
I will be lowering it so that i have a little more time if this should occur again.
As i ride in traffic regularly what oil would you recommend that will give me best protection against heating issues.
I will be plugging it in to the laptop to get a diagnostic ASAP and perhaps even an oil change.
Its interesting that you can set the temp sensor in the Tmax. I wonder why they chose 325 as a deFault temp as it is as you say damgeriously high.
I will be lowering it so that i have a little more time if this should occur again.
As i ride in traffic regularly what oil would you recommend that will give me best protection against heating issues.
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Something else you may want to consider is the "known issue" with Tmax, which I just experienced myself this week....an email to Zipper's and a post on here confirmed the CEL issue.... do you have any codes stored in your speedo?? ...like U1016?
here's the response I got back from Zippers:
The U1016 code simply represents the absence of the stock ECM.
Momentary gauge loss has been reported with a relatively small number of motorcycles using the ThunderMax system. If this condition does occur, simply cycling the main power switch will restore the gauges and lights to normal function. Doing this allows the Turn Signal Security Module or Turn Signal Module (as equipped), the instrumentation, ECM and various other sensors to regain proper synchronization. To date there have been no negative effects in regards to the running condition of the engine if this phenomenon should occur.
At your convenience it is strongly recommended that you check the motorcycle for Diagnostic Trouble Codes through the odometer and within the ThunderMax SmartLink software. In addition, make sure the battery cables are clean and secure, inspect the ground contacts for proper installation, clean any scale off of fuses and make sure that any non-original electrical accessories wired on the vehicle are not causing this condition. Temporarily removing or bypassing any accessory device may be a valid test.
So far, we have been unable to reproduce this random event on our test motorcycles with modules that have had this issue in the field. We will continue to monitor and test for a possible cause and, of course, a cure when or if the cause is identified.
Its the weekend here so i will have to contact the dealer next week.
Looks like a quiet weekend.
here's the response I got back from Zippers:
The U1016 code simply represents the absence of the stock ECM.
Momentary gauge loss has been reported with a relatively small number of motorcycles using the ThunderMax system. If this condition does occur, simply cycling the main power switch will restore the gauges and lights to normal function. Doing this allows the Turn Signal Security Module or Turn Signal Module (as equipped), the instrumentation, ECM and various other sensors to regain proper synchronization. To date there have been no negative effects in regards to the running condition of the engine if this phenomenon should occur.
At your convenience it is strongly recommended that you check the motorcycle for Diagnostic Trouble Codes through the odometer and within the ThunderMax SmartLink software. In addition, make sure the battery cables are clean and secure, inspect the ground contacts for proper installation, clean any scale off of fuses and make sure that any non-original electrical accessories wired on the vehicle are not causing this condition. Temporarily removing or bypassing any accessory device may be a valid test.
So far, we have been unable to reproduce this random event on our test motorcycles with modules that have had this issue in the field. We will continue to monitor and test for a possible cause and, of course, a cure when or if the cause is identified.
Its the weekend here so i will have to contact the dealer next week.
Looks like a quiet weekend.
I did hook up the computer and had no codes but the speedo had the U1016 code. still i have not had any other issue that that. more stable than windows vista.
on another note i found out i was using the wrong base map for true duals. with just slip-ons you should use the stock exhaust base map.
Last edited by tk353; May 16, 2009 at 03:28 AM.