Se 204 in a bone stock 96"
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the SE 255 are not Monster cams, there have a purpose and were made for heavy touring bikes wanting down low power and that is what there good at. Most dnyo sheets that I have seen with them tend to fall off the table at 4k.
The 103 kits installed by most dealers have flat tops, SE255's and stock heads.
In heavy touring bikes there great, but most lighter bike riders will usually not be happy with this setup. they just peter out to soon.
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Time has proven the woods cams will win hands downs with there fast ramp angles .. There a lot More $$$, but they do perform, some think they are noisey, but most overlook that..
When I beat our 1/2 of my brains decieding which cams to put in I used the below site to help me deciede which cam to get. they show all the numbers so U can make a really good choice.
www.bigboyzcycles.com/tccams.htm
U can compare most all the cams on the market side by side with this program
and it lets U put 3 different cams on the screen at a time..
When I beat our 1/2 of my brains decieding which cams to put in I used the below site to help me deciede which cam to get. they show all the numbers so U can make a really good choice.
www.bigboyzcycles.com/tccams.htm
U can compare most all the cams on the market side by side with this program
and it lets U put 3 different cams on the screen at a time..
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From: 40 miles Northeast of Indy..
Though I do like a few Woods grinds, I would never say they are the best by far. They are a single profile/simple linear pattern grind(which in many cases does work well). Alot of the newer and better grinds use an advanced profile design though having a slow intial opening of the lobe to increase air velocity giving better low end torque, then opening up real fast to allow increased air volume at the higher rpms extending the powerband. Only a handful of shops employ these type of grinds. I myself went fom 3 different wood cams(which for the most part gave real good results)to a new custom one off grind for my bike using and advanced profile lobe. I gained a wider powerband which equals better cylinder fill at all rpms.
Only stated that in here and in other forums, most, not all builders and Bros in the know, that are looking for top performance usually recommend and use Woods cams for getting the big numbers.
One thing I've learner over the yrs is, seldom, one product the best. Maybe for certain applications but not for all..
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Ohh my God yes...
I've heard both of Called to Duty's bikes, Both his 07 Deuce and 09 NT and they have A great rumpity-rump, sound at idle.
Of course its still a TC 96" and they Idle faster than the 88's even, but the 204's sound BADA$$ compared to a Stock cam in the 96" U won't be dissapointed.
Its A lot more than my andrews 26h's & they sound a little better than stock, but not like the SE204's..
Don't forget to Look at the THREAD ["DYNO" number for SOFTAILS], Its A sticky thread, at the top of page 1 in this softail section.
It has dyno sheets and or munbers of different motors builds with different cams.
The Touring section also has a dyno area, They have a lot more postings (over a thousand) than our Softail area.
I've heard both of Called to Duty's bikes, Both his 07 Deuce and 09 NT and they have A great rumpity-rump, sound at idle.
Of course its still a TC 96" and they Idle faster than the 88's even, but the 204's sound BADA$$ compared to a Stock cam in the 96" U won't be dissapointed.
Its A lot more than my andrews 26h's & they sound a little better than stock, but not like the SE204's..
Don't forget to Look at the THREAD ["DYNO" number for SOFTAILS], Its A sticky thread, at the top of page 1 in this softail section.
It has dyno sheets and or munbers of different motors builds with different cams.
The Touring section also has a dyno area, They have a lot more postings (over a thousand) than our Softail area.
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Just be aware that a twin cam will never have the EVO/Shovel sound. And another heads up, both the TC 96" and TC88" have both the same 1050rpm idle.
Last edited by GunmetalBlueNT; Aug 5, 2009 at 08:56 PM.
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No, you drop the idle and your engine doesnt get enough oil to critical areas of the engine.
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Very broad statement, almost any cam will do better with head work, but it has to be done for the build, not just do something and throw it on..
the SE 255 are not Monster cams, there have a purpose and were made for heavy touring bikes wanting down low power and that is what there good at. Most dnyo sheets that I have seen with them tend to fall off the table at 4k.
The 103 kits installed by most dealers have flat tops, SE255's and stock heads.
In heavy touring bikes there great, but most lighter bike riders will usually not be happy with this setup. they just peter out to soon.
the SE 255 are not Monster cams, there have a purpose and were made for heavy touring bikes wanting down low power and that is what there good at. Most dnyo sheets that I have seen with them tend to fall off the table at 4k.
The 103 kits installed by most dealers have flat tops, SE255's and stock heads.
In heavy touring bikes there great, but most lighter bike riders will usually not be happy with this setup. they just peter out to soon.
bought the PCV from FuelMoto and let auto tune dial it in. It brings in a bunch of power down low where I want it, I very seldom venture over 4K.
With the 255's in my ultra I can pull out to pass a truck and roll on from 65 or 70 and be doing a 100 before I pass the nose of the truck. On the back roads and hills where I normally ride in 4th or 5th gear it just eats up the road by twisting the wick, no need to down shift because it falls out of the power band.
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