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I was wondering what you think a reasonable expectation is for shocks on a Heritage Softail Classic, in miles. I've hit 31K on my '06. Frankly, I haven't noticed much deterioration (I ride solo exclusively), but it might be one of those things that you really don't notice until one day you hit a bump and find yourself sitting on the frame. I've been thinking about replacing the original shocks with a set of Progressive 422's. Would I really see an immediate difference?
The difference between the stock shocks and 422s is night and day. The rear suspension on a Heritage is no different from that of a Night Train, and the 422s made my 'Train far more comfortable.
The difference between the stock shocks and 422s is night and day. The rear suspension on a Heritage is no different from that of a Night Train, and the 422s made my 'Train far more comfortable.
I hear what you're saying, and I wonder if you could be a little more specific about just how the difference was "night and day". Do you ride mostly solo or two-up?
Both. When I went to the 18" rear wheel, the back of the bike looked like a YZ125, and the wife was having difficulty getting on the back. I bought the Progressives specifically to lower the back end. I'm now sitting 1-1/2" lower than stock.
What I found after I figured out my preload settings was that either solo or 2-up, the back of the bike didn't hammer me nearly as much as it did with the stock shocks. It's still a Softail with all the built-in limitations of the form-over-function rear suspension, but the 422s do a much better job of isolating the tire and swingarm, and keeping the bike planted. I can really notice it in the corners going over road imperfections. I can feel the rear suspension working while the bike stays stable.
On a couple of long solo trips, I've move the ride height back up to stock, and with the extra travel the bike becomes about as comfortable as a Softie is going to get.
The key with them (and the stock Showas for that matter) is correctly setting your preload. Yes it's a pain in the nuts to get down on hands and knees and adjust the shocks before every ride (assuming you're alternating solo and 2-up), but the payoff is well worth it.
Both. When I went to the 18" rear wheel, the back of the bike looked like a YZ125, and the wife was having difficulty getting on the back. I bought the Progressives specifically to lower the back end. I'm now sitting 1-1/2" lower than stock.
What I found after I figured out my preload settings was that either solo or 2-up, the back of the bike didn't hammer me nearly as much as it did with the stock shocks. It's still a Softail with all the built-in limitations of the form-over-function rear suspension, but the 422s do a much better job of isolating the tire and swingarm, and keeping the bike planted. I can really notice it in the corners going over road imperfections. I can feel the rear suspension working while the bike stays stable.
On a couple of long solo trips, I've move the ride height back up to stock, and with the extra travel the bike becomes about as comfortable as a Softie is going to get.
The key with them (and the stock Showas for that matter) is correctly setting your preload. Yes it's a pain in the nuts to get down on hands and knees and adjust the shocks before every ride (assuming you're alternating solo and 2-up), but the payoff is well worth it.
Great, thanks for the elaboration. Since I only ride solo, presumably I would only have to set the preload once and then forget about it. It is hard to imagine that the 422's wouldn't have a noticeable effect on the ride quality, when properly adjusted.
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