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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Hey all,

I know stage one questions are everywhere, but...
Is there any advantage to doing the air cleaner and PC commander, (or SERT, fuel pak, etc.) with the stock exhaust? I'd like to get more performance, just not louder.
Has anyone done this?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Have you considered ear plugs or muffs?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Joe,

The Power Commander alone will net you a little bit, since it will richen up the mixture which comes from the factory in EPA-Super Lean mode. The AC will help too, but will be much more effective with a better set of free flowing mufflers. Stuffing more air into the motor won't work, unless you can get it out through the exhaust. The stock exhaust is quite restrictive. I changed mine to SE slip-ons and noticed an immediate improvement.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Thanks for the reply Jake.

TX, I should not have said "just not louder." What I meant was I want the performance more.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Replacing the pipes is necessary to develope the full potiental from the Stage I air cleaner. They will increase the noise level a lot but it stirs the blood in your soul, if you know what I mean. I just did V&H BigShot Staggered Pipes on my 05 Deluxe and its awsome! Lets the engine breath! My wife is not so happy with the noise level so we will have to use the little foam earplugs for longer trips.

Good Luck with your choice.
 
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eventualy you can't do one without the other!
 
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