Yeah I thought 16's would be right around shoulder height but they're closer to eye level. I'm glad I didn't opt for 18's because we have a shoulder height law in NY and 18's would be really stretching it. Hopefully the cops won't screw with me to much with the 16"s. I do know the Carlinis run a bit taller then other apes so take that into consideration when ordering your bars.
thanks for the help over the winter guys, especially mimo. My 16" carlini flyin apes are on and the project is done. For those wondering how high 16" carlini apes are i've included some pics of the install.