Made some calls...researched...no I'm confused about slip-ons vs a full system!
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Out of Commiefornia!
Much as I hate to admit it, my riding partner has a Heritage with Reinhart slip-ons, and they actually sound more beefy than my V&H Short Shot Staggered's (with the Quiet Baffles installed)... of course I wanted a more subtle sound, but I was amazed how clean the sound came out of those slip-ons!
If you're on a budget, slip-ons, Stage 1 and the download is probably a great way to go. If you have more funding, a ThunderMax or PC is probably a good choice, and if you really want volume go for some real pipes.
Enjoy!
Roger
If you're on a budget, slip-ons, Stage 1 and the download is probably a great way to go. If you have more funding, a ThunderMax or PC is probably a good choice, and if you really want volume go for some real pipes.
Enjoy!
Roger
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Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Utah
You want good looks? You want good sound? You want performance? You want cheap?
Melingerer gave you good advice. Your only issue is, if you want all of the above you can't have it. Period. You can get rid of the cheap, and MAYBE you can get the rest as long as your taste lines up with what is available.
Most real experts say (I'm not one but I read them) that all things being equal, you cannot, in any way, beat the performance of a two into one. For many people, that gets rid of the performance issue.
V&H pioneered the crossover pipe to 'scavenge' one cylinder exhaust with the other cylinder's previous exhaust... an x-pipe concept, to try to address the performance/looks issue. Is there an appreciable difference? Dunno...
I can tell you that the design/sound issue and performance issue is backpressure related. There is no silver bullet.
If sound is what you are after, go to a big rally and listen to what others have on their bikes with the same engine as you have. That is a must... all the rest will be guesswork if you don't do that.
What comes from the factory is legal in all 50 states by governmental standards. That should tell you, without a doubt, that the stock exhaust systems are a compromise. If you want something that is >legal< in your area, then you >might< be able to improve upon the stock pipes. If you don't care about legal (most don't... rarely enforced) then you need to do some personal research before jumping in.
My buck fifty.
C#
Melingerer gave you good advice. Your only issue is, if you want all of the above you can't have it. Period. You can get rid of the cheap, and MAYBE you can get the rest as long as your taste lines up with what is available.
Most real experts say (I'm not one but I read them) that all things being equal, you cannot, in any way, beat the performance of a two into one. For many people, that gets rid of the performance issue.
V&H pioneered the crossover pipe to 'scavenge' one cylinder exhaust with the other cylinder's previous exhaust... an x-pipe concept, to try to address the performance/looks issue. Is there an appreciable difference? Dunno...
I can tell you that the design/sound issue and performance issue is backpressure related. There is no silver bullet.
If sound is what you are after, go to a big rally and listen to what others have on their bikes with the same engine as you have. That is a must... all the rest will be guesswork if you don't do that.
What comes from the factory is legal in all 50 states by governmental standards. That should tell you, without a doubt, that the stock exhaust systems are a compromise. If you want something that is >legal< in your area, then you >might< be able to improve upon the stock pipes. If you don't care about legal (most don't... rarely enforced) then you need to do some personal research before jumping in.
My buck fifty.
C#
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Gastonia, NC
I like Harley's header pipes. I like the 'equalizer' tube making them a two into one concept. I've had several tuners and HD dealers agree with me too. I put Rush slip-ons, Stage One intake and PC-V from FuelMoto. Very pleased with the whole set-up. O2 sensors are gone and bike is running fine. I could dyno but probably wouldn't feel any gain.
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From: Rowlett, Texas
Rush slip ons, Big City Thunder baffles, FuelMoto PC-V, and RSD intake. Runs great and sounds good but I still wonder what having full exhaust would be like. The Rush slip ons with a 2" baffle are a big improvement over stock but just like everything with your Harley once you start the only thing that's gonna stop you is lack of funds.
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From: Leander Texas
voiding a warranty will take a court of law. as long as the mod is not part of the reason for the defect they cant say anything. if they say the mod is part of the reason they will have to prove it if you dont agree.
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From: Lynchburg, Va
Why buy slip ons? I have a set of BUB pipes that I took off my FB that are in great condition. 100.00 and they are yours.
Shakey
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