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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Several years ago my bike did the same thing. It turned out to be the bank angle sensor that caused the engine to stop running. When you turned the ignition switch off and back on, it re-cycled the sensor and the bike would start up and run again until it decided to stop again.

The bank angle sensor is designed to cut your motorcycle off if the bike exceeds 45 degrees, or in the case putting the bike down. If it is defective, it will do what you are describing. Have your mechanic check it out. On my Fatboy, the sensor is located in front of the rear tire, so the plastic splash guard needs to be removed.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 01:06 AM
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Bank angle sensor (BAS) has been replaced.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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I am thinking a new main switch. or check current one out really good at very least.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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I'm having the same trouble. The bike dies for a split second while riding. Sometimes it never happens. I notice that the horn dosent work sometimes. When the bike stalls the speedo drops to 0 and the bike dosent backfire and has never died completly. Sometimes the starter button wont work and i can move the braided cables going in front of the tank then it will work. I guess looking close to all connections is my first job. Any other suggestions?Thanks
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jdtanglewood
I'm having the same trouble. The bike dies for a split second while riding. Sometimes it never happens. I notice that the horn dosent work sometimes. When the bike stalls the speedo drops to 0 and the bike dosent backfire and has never died completly. Sometimes the starter button wont work and i can move the braided cables going in front of the tank then it will work. I guess looking close to all connections is my first job. Any other suggestions?Thanks
Not the same as OP..

JD,, urs sounds like Ur battery cables could be loose or dirty,, clean Ur cables and tighten up the battery bolt and see if thats Ur issue.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by havenolife
Just a thought maybe the ECM is going south but there is no way to check it unless you know somebody that has about the same year moddle bike that you could trade or swap out and see if his does it or yours dont.


Might be....

Now where is that EMC on his Carbed bike..??..



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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 01:28 AM
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OP never did tell us what the issue was, but on an '02 I can almost bet that it was the wiring to the bank angle sensor. The '00-02's had basic diagnostics back then and few issues that would shut the motor down. I had a broken wire in my harness to the BAS.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kettenhund75
Hello,
working on my uncle's bike. He has a 2002 FXSTS Heritage Softail Springer carbureted model. He has had the bike in and out of several shops - including the local dealership. Every time, they say they are unable to reproduce the problem. I had him leave it with me for a couple of weeks. I have put about 60 miles on it, and had it die on me twice. Here is his original email to me explaining what has happened to this point:

"It is a 2000 Harley FXSTS with a Mikuni 45mm carb that was installed last
Sept. It has been running fine since the new larger carb was installed.
Then around June the speedo started acting erratic and quit working. I
replaced the speed sensor, but no help. Harley ended up replacing the
speedo to fix the problem. Then about two weeks later the battery died. I
replaced the battery and a week later the new battery died. I then replaced
the voltage regulator and recharged the new battery with a trickle charger.


The first time I test rode the bike after the regulator replacement is when
the bike started stalling. I was about 3 miles from home when the engine
died. It wouldn't start until I turned the ignition switch off/on. I still
had lights working.

It has continued to die within a few miles of home since. Each time I have
to cycle the ignition switch to get it to start, but it always starts right
back up. It has happened at all speeds and on straight and level roads. No
one has been able to reproduce or fix the stall when they had it in their
shop. The first shop American Bike Tailor said it probably was bad gas, but
it has had several tanks since then. Harley replaced the main circuit
breaker, but it didn't fix anything. American Cycles replaced the crank
position sensor. It ran good for about 3 trips, the longest about 30 miles.
Then it failed again yesterday about 8 miles from home."

Now, I have had it die on me twice while riding. The first time was on smooth level road - no bumps or potholes or extreme leaning involved. I pulled over to the side of the road, cycled the run/off switch and started it right back up. The second time was today - I was riding the bike back to him (thought i had it fixed - replaced the BAS sensor) and it died when I hit a rough patch of road. He has had everything replaced sensor wise that would kill the bike. As far as I know, the only sensors that will kill it are the crank position sensor and the BAS sensor. I have done quite a bit of reading on this problem. Seems like there is no consistent cause. People have had problems with everything from bad sensors to bad grounds, bad switches, bare wires, etc. I cannot get the problem to occur consistently. I can ride over some seriously bad road and it continues to run just fine. I took the control group apart on the throttle side of the bars and wiggled the wires, jiggled the switch, tried to push on it slightly, tapped on the housing, etc trying to get it to die. Did the same with the ignition switch. I have played with the wiring harness - wiggling it around to the point it goes under the tank. Nothing will cause any kind of stumble or cause the bike to die. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I would just take it to the dealership for him (they offered a $42.50 diagnostic session), but unless they can reproduce it, they cannot troubleshoot it. Their solution is to throw it on the dyno and let it run for an hour or more. But that has been done twice before with no results. I am a very competent motorcycle mechanic - especially with Harley's - but I'm scratching my head on this one.

I have checked all the simple stuff - battery cables, ground locations, etc. This last time when it died on me, I was going about 50mph, hit some bad road, and it died. All lights continued to function. It was as if I had hit the run/off switch. No sputter, no miss, just like flipping a switch. All I did was flip the switch from run to off then back to run and it backfired and started back up without having to pull over. I hit the off switch again and cycled it back to run - same thing. Lose power, backfire (from fuel being pumped into the exhaust), start back up. Please help... He really enjoys his rides, and he is afraid to get too far from his house now because of this.

Sounds like an intermittent ground issue, but like you said, reproducing it will be a pain, and unfortunatley, it's going to have to get worse before you'll figure it out. Don't waste your time with PPHD, they'll never figure it out. The guys at American Motorcycles are pretty damn good at what they do, if I were you, bring it back to them and let them have it for awhile to see if it can be duplicated.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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I have 02 fxsts done exactly same things turned was 2 part simple fix 1 main ground bolt under seat was loose and 2 wire pinched in switch house collar where handlebars r dimpled ... Been 3 years now and no more prob except havta tighten the ground bolt up every now and then ... I put a little Nicole anti seize on ground contacts last round helps keep them from corroding up etc. that's been workin last year anyways
 
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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I think there are 7 grounds on that bike. I had intermittent speedo issues on my 05 and went thru a bunch of headaches before I scraped the PC off all grounds and wire brushed the connection bolts and coated with dielectric lube.. No problems since. Carbed or EFI the newer bikes are ground sensitive.
 
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