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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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OK here it goes I have a heritage softail 2006 I took off the ground to the Battery, and with a volt tester I put the ground on the tester to the battery, and the red lead from the tester to the frame and got a reading of 11.7 volts. tell me thats not common. I took all the fuses out and relays out. OR does this tell me my startyer has a short??????? HELP
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Did you unplug the regulator/rectifier? A high resistance path will allow a VOM to read volts. What are you troubleshooting?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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I'd love to help,, But I am a Millwright/Sheetmetal/Welder.... by trade....


Soooo as one of the Electricians at work once said.... Call me a real Electricians when he got way over his head.




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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Doesn't sound like a short. A short would read little to know voltage, volt meters read a difference of potential so if it was shorted you would have no difference of potential. 11.7 volts sounds low to me though, what does the voltage measure when you go from the positive to the negative terminals of you batteries?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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The battery reads 12.1
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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I did not unplug the regulator/rectifier I wiil try that next
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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The only thing hook up is the starter I disconnected the hot wire from the starter to the electrical
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Do a resistance check from negative to positive. If you get little to no resistance, it's shorted. A lot of resistance it's not shorted. If you have a digital meter it'll probably read OL or something along those lines if it's not shorted. If its analog then likely get full scale.

Checking resistance is a better way of checking for shorts than checking voltage.

Out of curiosity why are you checking all of this anyways? Will your bike not start? If that's the issue and your meter indicates its not shorted check the voltage when your trying to crank it over. If it drops a lot it's possible your battery might be dead.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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Ok, re read your posts. I misread it the 1st time. This is a dumb question but when you took the black lead to the battery did you go to the positive terminal or negative?

If positive then you likely are reading the correct voltage, if negative then I would think you have a short somewhere. But with a short you should be killing your battery fairly quickly.

Do the resistance checks with the battery completely disconnected and for from the positive lead of the bike to the negative lead of the back and report back. In other words go black to black and red to red on meter and bike.
 
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Your starter is not in the circuit until the starter relay is shut to start the bike, so it isn't your starter (and the starter will read as a short since it is a load). The starter relay isn't in the circuit until the start button is pushed, so it isn't the relay. The only time I have seen this is when there is a short in the alternator or shorted component in the reg/rectifier. Still wondering what symptom you are troubleshooting.
 
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