Pushing the button on my rebuild...your thoughts please.
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Cruiser
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From: Hampshire, UK
Pushing the button on my rebuild...your thoughts please.
My '06 Softail Deluxe which I have had from new is starting to look a little tired.
I have managed to put 125,000 miles on it without to many issues. Unfortunately due to the weather here in the UK and riding it all year round the frame and tins are showing signs of rust and bubbles in the paint.
Being a bit of a perfectionist as most of us harley riders are, i have to put it right.
Here is the plan:
Frame - Blasted, Welds smoothed, Powdercoated.
Tins - Dipped, Prepped, Re-painted Stock Two Tone Black & White.
Engine - Welded & trued crank (Silvermoon)
- Lefty Bearings
- 95" BB Kit
- New Stock 06 heads
- Hydraulic Cam Plate
- Andrews 26N Cams
- HQ Black Ops Lifers
- New Rotor, Stator, Primary Chain
- New Clutch & S/E Spring, Trans Sprocket, Rear Belt & Pulley
- SESPT
Cables - Magnum Chromite II all round
Chrome - To much to list...
I am after a dependable ride that I can do another 100K + on. But that is a bit more fun!
What do you guys think of the plan before I go ahead and push the button - have I missed anything?
I look forward to reading your replies
Rob
I have managed to put 125,000 miles on it without to many issues. Unfortunately due to the weather here in the UK and riding it all year round the frame and tins are showing signs of rust and bubbles in the paint.
Being a bit of a perfectionist as most of us harley riders are, i have to put it right.
Here is the plan:
Frame - Blasted, Welds smoothed, Powdercoated.
Tins - Dipped, Prepped, Re-painted Stock Two Tone Black & White.
Engine - Welded & trued crank (Silvermoon)
- Lefty Bearings
- 95" BB Kit
- New Stock 06 heads
- Hydraulic Cam Plate
- Andrews 26N Cams
- HQ Black Ops Lifers
- New Rotor, Stator, Primary Chain
- New Clutch & S/E Spring, Trans Sprocket, Rear Belt & Pulley
- SESPT
Cables - Magnum Chromite II all round
Chrome - To much to list...
I am after a dependable ride that I can do another 100K + on. But that is a bit more fun!
What do you guys think of the plan before I go ahead and push the button - have I missed anything?
I look forward to reading your replies
Rob
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That doesn't sounds like a bad plan.
When I were my Deluxe down and it needs to be rebuilt I am going to go for the blacked-out Murder look. I know everyone is doing it will Fatboy Lo and Dynas but I havent see it in a Deluxe.
When I were my Deluxe down and it needs to be rebuilt I am going to go for the blacked-out Murder look. I know everyone is doing it will Fatboy Lo and Dynas but I havent see it in a Deluxe.
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With a properly built crank and a lefty bearing, I'd consider gear drive 26G cams. I've got 'em ( since 81,000 miles,) currently just passed 113,000 miles and don't plan on peeking into my cam chest for another 60,000 miles or so.
Every other option on your list is the same as mine, and my 95" motor is easily the best, most willing Harley motor I've ever run. ( And still 46 mpg to boot!)
Every other option on your list is the same as mine, and my 95" motor is easily the best, most willing Harley motor I've ever run. ( And still 46 mpg to boot!)
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My .02? If you are going with new heads, why stock on that new build? I would go with SE heads for sure and have them flowed, ported and polished. You will NOT be sorry you did. You can also go with high compression pistons with the SE heads too, a major difference from stock heads.
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My .02? If you are going with new heads, why stock on that new build? I would go with SE heads for sure and have them flowed, ported and polished. You will NOT be sorry you did. You can also go with high compression pistons with the SE heads too, a major difference from stock heads.
Reading your sig, your bike must fly! Nice ride.
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Maybe, once this one is done I'll have to find a good deal on a second hand fatboy and get to work on that. Then i'll get the best of both worlds! Anyone got a big big bag of cash i can have?
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With a properly built crank and a lefty bearing, I'd consider gear drive 26G cams. I've got 'em ( since 81,000 miles,) currently just passed 113,000 miles and don't plan on peeking into my cam chest for another 60,000 miles or so.
Every other option on your list is the same as mine, and my 95" motor is easily the best, most willing Harley motor I've ever run. ( And still 46 mpg to boot!)
Every other option on your list is the same as mine, and my 95" motor is easily the best, most willing Harley motor I've ever run. ( And still 46 mpg to boot!)
I was told by a tech at my local stealer that the 95" with good cams would be bullet proof. Good to know he wasn't wrong. Thx Stiggy.
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Well, since you asked for opinions....I have the 26 cam and in hindsight, I would have gone with the 37 and had stage II headwork done, although I did manage to push out almost 100 ft/lb torque with the 26 and decking of the heads to 9.3-1 CR.The 37 is a relatively mild cam that requires about 9.8-1 compression ratio to make it's potential. Also, if I was in your situation, I would go with another paint scheme other than stock. Something with a color-shifting paint that has people going "WOW". Riding in the UK, how many rainsuits have you gone thru? I was in Wales for a month and it rained 28 out of 30 days...chuckin' it down most of the time.
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Just spoke to one of the possilbe two builders that I had shortlised to do my engine.
Talk about throw a spanner in the works. After much discussion he suggested that if he was to split the cases he would do this:
Timken Bearing conversion
S&S or Silvermoon/Darkhorse 4-3/8 crank
Headquarters 107" bolt on kit with Andrews TW50/55's
S/E Billet Plate and oil Pump
Manual compression release on heads
I can see where he is coming from. He said that as your in that far you may as well. Labour costs and parts are roughly the same. And this way I getter a bigger build for the $$.
I must admit, it's alot more cubic inch than I was planning on. But then can you ever have too much!
He has built many of these either in the new 96" or older 88" and all are still running great.
Not having much build experience I am at a loss as what to do.
Your thoughts please...
Rob
Talk about throw a spanner in the works. After much discussion he suggested that if he was to split the cases he would do this:
Timken Bearing conversion
S&S or Silvermoon/Darkhorse 4-3/8 crank
Headquarters 107" bolt on kit with Andrews TW50/55's
S/E Billet Plate and oil Pump
Manual compression release on heads
I can see where he is coming from. He said that as your in that far you may as well. Labour costs and parts are roughly the same. And this way I getter a bigger build for the $$.
I must admit, it's alot more cubic inch than I was planning on. But then can you ever have too much!
He has built many of these either in the new 96" or older 88" and all are still running great.
Not having much build experience I am at a loss as what to do.
Your thoughts please...
Rob
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My '06 Softail Deluxe which I have had from new is starting to look a little tired.
I have managed to put 125,000 miles on it without to many issues. Unfortunately due to the weather here in the UK and riding it all year round the frame and tins are showing signs of rust and bubbles in the paint.
Being a bit of a perfectionist as most of us harley riders are, i have to put it right.
Here is the plan:
Frame - Blasted, Welds smoothed, Powdercoated.
Tins - Dipped, Prepped, Re-painted Stock Two Tone Black & White.
Engine - Welded & trued crank (Silvermoon)
- Lefty Bearings
- 95" BB Kit
- New Stock 06 heads
- Hydraulic Cam Plate
- Andrews 26N Cams
- HQ Black Ops Lifers
- New Rotor, Stator, Primary Chain
- New Clutch & S/E Spring, Trans Sprocket, Rear Belt & Pulley
- SESPT
Cables - Magnum Chromite II all round
Chrome - To much to list...
I am after a dependable ride that I can do another 100K + on. But that is a bit more fun!
What do you guys think of the plan before I go ahead and push the button - have I missed anything?
I look forward to reading your replies
Rob
I have managed to put 125,000 miles on it without to many issues. Unfortunately due to the weather here in the UK and riding it all year round the frame and tins are showing signs of rust and bubbles in the paint.
Being a bit of a perfectionist as most of us harley riders are, i have to put it right.
Here is the plan:
Frame - Blasted, Welds smoothed, Powdercoated.
Tins - Dipped, Prepped, Re-painted Stock Two Tone Black & White.
Engine - Welded & trued crank (Silvermoon)
- Lefty Bearings
- 95" BB Kit
- New Stock 06 heads
- Hydraulic Cam Plate
- Andrews 26N Cams
- HQ Black Ops Lifers
- New Rotor, Stator, Primary Chain
- New Clutch & S/E Spring, Trans Sprocket, Rear Belt & Pulley
- SESPT
Cables - Magnum Chromite II all round
Chrome - To much to list...
I am after a dependable ride that I can do another 100K + on. But that is a bit more fun!
What do you guys think of the plan before I go ahead and push the button - have I missed anything?
I look forward to reading your replies
Rob
New inner cam bearings.
I have a 26 series cam... I think if I had a 95 kit I might be inclined to go a little stouter... but not too much just to keep the rideability and durability intact. I would pick one that has a longer torque range (starts earlier, lasts a little longer) comparable to the HD 211 I think it is. You have a few more cubes to support it but you wouldn't need to worry about head work or bigger intake.