Internal wiring on apes.
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Internal wiring on apes.
I am going to 16" Gangsters this winter. I wanted to do internal wiring but this guy at work says I can't because I have fuel injection which means I have two cables on my throttle assembly, 1 cable to throttle it the other to back out of it. Can this be true? I have 40 years of riding in but zero experience with apes and how they set up. Pictures would be great too if anyone has them..
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Not true. Find apes on this forum with exposed wires. I would bet u almost can't. Usually you'll have three cables running the outside. Throttle, idle (return, whatever) and front brake.
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I got 16" king apes & I just ran wiring inside them. Kept brake, idle & throttle outside. I think you got to buy a special throttle to run cables inside. So I just bought the Magnum "black pearl" cables so it looks good as my bars.
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I am going to 16" Gangsters this winter. I wanted to do internal wiring but this guy at work says I can't because I have fuel injection which means I have two cables on my throttle assembly, 1 cable to throttle it the other to back out of it. Can this be true? I have 40 years of riding in but zero experience with apes and how they set up. Pictures would be great too if anyone has them..
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I am going to 16" Gangsters this winter. I wanted to do internal wiring but this guy at work says I can't because I have fuel injection which means I have two cables on my throttle assembly, 1 cable to throttle it the other to back out of it. Can this be true? I have 40 years of riding in but zero experience with apes and how they set up. Pictures would be great too if anyone has them..
You can run an internal throttle but it is a seperate aftermarket assembly. As for 2 throttle cables - I have EFI and I just got rid of the return cable so I only have one. (my wiring and front brake are internal though)
As was said, wiring can be run inside regardless, throttle you will need an internal throttle setup, brake you will need the Russell pro system line and fittings. I ran everything in mine. Super clean and not too hard to do if you have patience and some skills.
And yes, modern setups have 2 throttle cables. One for throttle, and the other a DOT mandated return cable for safety. In case the throttle sticks open, it can be forced closed with the grip.
And yes, modern setups have 2 throttle cables. One for throttle, and the other a DOT mandated return cable for safety. In case the throttle sticks open, it can be forced closed with the grip.
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Midgard & Jreichert, can u just eliminate the idle cable? I have seen la cycles kit for carburetors and they have have a spring. What is the non-DOT process for efi?
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Originally Posted by Tee⋁10630371
Midgard & Jreichert, can u just eliminate the idle cable? I have seen la cycles kit for carburetors and they have have a spring. What is the non-DOT process for efi?
The internal throttle setup works on a single cable only. Some internal throttles have a return spring built into the assembly to assist in throttle return, but its really not needed. The exisitng return spring on the throttle body is all that's required. After all, in normal riding conditions barring any emergency throttle sticking, it's the throttle body return spring doing all the work anyway. The idle return cable is simply there as a safety precaution for the .000001% chance that your throttle will completely lock up in the full open position. It allows you to force the throttle closed again using the grip.