Dropped the Bike Today
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Some folks just need to lighten up. Every situation is different, and you can't say that you'd of done this or that until AFTER it's happened to you.
All the practice in the world may or may not make a difference to the situation you may find yourself in, you just won't know until it's happened. Unless of course you can predict the future, but I doubt that, cuz if you could, you wouldn't be hanging out here critizing someone for having had a terrible misfortune happen to them.
Experience and practice are a must for all riders, but it may or may not make a difference.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda.... Fate will happen.
All the practice in the world may or may not make a difference to the situation you may find yourself in, you just won't know until it's happened. Unless of course you can predict the future, but I doubt that, cuz if you could, you wouldn't be hanging out here critizing someone for having had a terrible misfortune happen to them.
Experience and practice are a must for all riders, but it may or may not make a difference.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda.... Fate will happen.
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I was in the left hand turn lane and had just started moving. The car was in the through lane on my right side and swerved in front of me, cutting me off with a few feet to spare. He probably decided that he wanted to make a left hand turn at the last second and didn't care that I was there, or didn't see me. Either way he's a jackazz.
I'm not a poser, and I'm not a newbie rider, but I ****ed up when I let the rear tire lock on me. The pavement was wet and oily but I KNOW I ****ed up. I don't need you telling me what happened. I made the mistake and I'm taking ownership of it. I didn't make the posting because I'm feeling sorry for myself and I don't need any sympathy from anyone.
Judge me if you want, but that's what happened. I don't give a damn what you, or anyone else, thinks.
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Yeah, your posting is a pretty good example of trolling. If you have nothing positive to contribute then you need to step away from the keyboard. Otherwise you are just trying to **** people off, i.e. trolling.
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This happens so often around me, people not knowing where they're going and only realize at the last second that they need to change lanes or make a turn.. nothing you can do about it on your end, no amount of "practicing in a parking lot" or taking rider education courses will prepare you for the butthead who freaks out at the last second because they may miss their turn.. doesn't matter if it's 10mph or 100mph
oh, and as far as your photo, hard for me to see, but is that where your risers meet your tripletrees? looks like the riser bolt snapped, or the bushings bent, or both.. it's a cheap fix. if your bars got bent, well, that's more expensive.. but start out by picking up a set of (i think they're called) 'grade 8' bolts.. Harley I think uses grade 5.. but grade 8 are supposed to be stronger.. and the bushings are only a few cents a piece, there's 2 per riser-hole, so, 4. (duh).
oh, and as far as your photo, hard for me to see, but is that where your risers meet your tripletrees? looks like the riser bolt snapped, or the bushings bent, or both.. it's a cheap fix. if your bars got bent, well, that's more expensive.. but start out by picking up a set of (i think they're called) 'grade 8' bolts.. Harley I think uses grade 5.. but grade 8 are supposed to be stronger.. and the bushings are only a few cents a piece, there's 2 per riser-hole, so, 4. (duh).
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This happens so often around me, people not knowing where they're going and only realize at the last second that they need to change lanes or make a turn.. nothing you can do about it on your end, no amount of "practicing in a parking lot" or taking rider education courses will prepare you for the butthead who freaks out at the last second because they may miss their turn.. doesn't matter if it's 10mph or 100mph
oh, and as far as your photo, hard for me to see, but is that where your risers meet your tripletrees? looks like the riser bolt snapped, or the bushings bent, or both.. it's a cheap fix. if your bars got bent, well, that's more expensive.. but start out by picking up a set of (i think they're called) 'grade 8' bolts.. Harley I think uses grade 5.. but grade 8 are supposed to be stronger.. and the bushings are only a few cents a piece, there's 2 per riser-hole, so, 4. (duh).
oh, and as far as your photo, hard for me to see, but is that where your risers meet your tripletrees? looks like the riser bolt snapped, or the bushings bent, or both.. it's a cheap fix. if your bars got bent, well, that's more expensive.. but start out by picking up a set of (i think they're called) 'grade 8' bolts.. Harley I think uses grade 5.. but grade 8 are supposed to be stronger.. and the bushings are only a few cents a piece, there's 2 per riser-hole, so, 4. (duh).
Thanks for the input. The photo isn't that great, but yes, you saw that it was the riser bushings bent. Good call on that. I already fixed it with a buddies help. Not a big deal. The good thing about this is that it humbled me back down and I know where my mistake was without too much of a loss.
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Thanks man. It's all good now.
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[QUOTE=Doug S;10737835]They help in tip-overs and maybe slow speed laydowns but drop it at any speed and you stand a good chance of totalling your ride. If that little tab where they mount on the top bends then the insurance co will total the bike.
Not completely true.... I am a motorcycle claims adjuster and damage appraiser. Insurance companies will not "total" a bike just because the frame is damaged. The MoCo does, however, highly recommend that the frame get changed if there is any dame to the frame whatsoever. It's quite a simple job, pays about 20-25 hours to complete a swap on a softail, plus $2k for the frame. Shops love it cause its a huge parts sale for them, and a skilled tech can complete it in about 2 days, so they make some serious $ on frame swaps. Insurance companies work off a bottom-line break even basis. If the bike can safely be repaired and be brought back to 100% Pre-loss condition (or better) and its going to cost less than totaling, then they are stroking a check for the repairs. That being said, Harley's have been getting 35%-50% at salvage auction in the past few years, so they consider that as well when making the decision to total or repair. For example, bike is worth $12k, salvage value quote comes in at $4500, if the estimate to fix the bike is more than $7500 (which we all know adds up quickly when stealers are getting $80-$90+/hr labor), bike is deemed a total and you should start searching for a new ride. Hope this provides a little insight on the "totaled because of frame damage" myth.
Not completely true.... I am a motorcycle claims adjuster and damage appraiser. Insurance companies will not "total" a bike just because the frame is damaged. The MoCo does, however, highly recommend that the frame get changed if there is any dame to the frame whatsoever. It's quite a simple job, pays about 20-25 hours to complete a swap on a softail, plus $2k for the frame. Shops love it cause its a huge parts sale for them, and a skilled tech can complete it in about 2 days, so they make some serious $ on frame swaps. Insurance companies work off a bottom-line break even basis. If the bike can safely be repaired and be brought back to 100% Pre-loss condition (or better) and its going to cost less than totaling, then they are stroking a check for the repairs. That being said, Harley's have been getting 35%-50% at salvage auction in the past few years, so they consider that as well when making the decision to total or repair. For example, bike is worth $12k, salvage value quote comes in at $4500, if the estimate to fix the bike is more than $7500 (which we all know adds up quickly when stealers are getting $80-$90+/hr labor), bike is deemed a total and you should start searching for a new ride. Hope this provides a little insight on the "totaled because of frame damage" myth.
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Read it again fool. I wasn't tailgating anyone and I already said that ABS is too often used as a crutch for lack of skill. But it won'd do any good to defend myself to you. You already know ALL about me, don'cha? Sure you do. You have it all figured out because you didn't bother understanding what happened. Sorry, you are wrong again. But since it's a lot easier to make stupid assumptions about what happened I'll just let you roll down that path. Stop posting in this thread before you make a bigger *** of yourself. You obviously can't read.