Neil Smith, you either didn't pay attention to what I was saying or I didn't make myself clear. What I said in my reply was that, that it IS because of Unions that I make what I make. If it were NOT for the Unions I would be making a 3rd of what I now make and have little or no benefits. The reason I make what I make is because my Company does NOT want a Union in our plant so they pay us union wages. My father was a teamster for nearly 50 years. My dad was one of the guys out busting heads way back in the day when unions were starting up and taking off to gain strength for ALL of us, union or not, he was kicking *** and taking names to fight FOR the union. I have 5 brothers, 1 worked his whole life for GM, 1 has worked his entire working time in heating and air then for Chrysler, 1 Brother for heavy equipment operator and then Chrysler too. You had me pegged totally wrong. In the unit where I work there was 5 of us per shift when I hired in there 24 years ago, now there are 2 people per shift and we are still doing everything we did with 5. That is why I have 500 hours of overtime, not because I want it. BUT, since it is there am I supposed to NOT work the overtime? I have ZERO say about anything my company does and that is why I DO support unions. I knock NO ONE about what they do or how they work. The point I was making was zworld said it was my fault, your fault because of what we make that drives companies to move to China and other places around the globe. When I hear people talk like zworld or make those kinds of comments that there are still people who don't get it, don't see it. I also said when the unions are no more, totally gone and powerless that we will all be working for 10 bucks an hour. Our kids will have little or no future, no hope for a good paying jobs with benefits. Make NO mistake about it. I know why I make and earn what I earn. It is because OF the union and no other reason. My facility would be in China too but the reason they are not is because were we are we get gas, ethan and propane for 8 cents a pound. We turn that gas into plastic and sell it for 58 cents a pound. When that gas dries up they will throw a chain and on the gate and shut it down, then move to China. It is sad there are still people who don't know why this country is in the shape it's in and that they blame people like me, like you and the unions for all of this country's troubles. Until they open their eyes and understand the truth things will only continue to get worse and our kids have no hope, no future. I do not feel bad about what I earn, I work my *** off and put in a ton of time to get what I get. I have sacrificed much to work where I work and how I work. I raised my kids with post-it-notes and watched them grow up with pictures of them on my locker door. Because of the hours I work my body has no schedule. I don't eat, **** or screw like a "normal person" because my system is so screwed up from these hours. I gave my pound of flesh for what they in turn pay me. I also get what I get BECAUSE of the unions, no other reason. I know it, my company knows, nothing more, nothing less.