Interesting day. Little help please
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I had the exact same problem, the ticking part anyway, here's the thread
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...ensioners.html
I thought it was fixed, but it's returned - briefly - a couple times.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...ensioners.html
I thought it was fixed, but it's returned - briefly - a couple times.
Ok, I am leaning towards that... The bike has 49k miles on it, I bought it with 35k. I have no clue if the original owner replaced the tensioners or not. Probably not. Can someone please let me know exactly what is needed to do this job?(Parts wise). On HD site, The SE hydraulic tensioner/oil pump upgrade kit comes with that, cam support plate, chain, etc... I have the Torrington B-148's ready to install. I've got the cam cover gasket. Do I need to replace the pushrods to adjustable ones? How about outer cam bearings? On the description it says this is also needed: Installation requires separate purchase of Spacer Kit P/N 25285-08, Cam Service Kit P/N 17045-99D and Drive Gear Retention Kit P/N 25533-99A.
Are these neccessary or are they trying to squeeze more $$ out of you? I appreciate all the help so far.
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Ok, I am leaning towards that... The bike has 49k miles on it, I bought it with 35k. I have no clue if the original owner replaced the tensioners or not. Probably not. Can someone please let me know exactly what is needed to do this job?(Parts wise). On HD site, The SE hydraulic tensioner/oil pump upgrade kit comes with that, cam support plate, chain, etc... I have the Torrington B-148's ready to install. I've got the cam cover gasket. Do I need to replace the pushrods to adjustable ones? How about outer cam bearings? On the description it says this is also needed: Installation requires separate purchase of Spacer Kit P/N 25285-08, Cam Service Kit P/N 17045-99D and Drive Gear Retention Kit P/N 25533-99A.
Are these neccessary or are they trying to squeeze more $$ out of you? I appreciate all the help so far.
Are these neccessary or are they trying to squeeze more $$ out of you? I appreciate all the help so far.
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Thanks Threadstopper. My buddy has the bearing pullers. I'll get the adjustable pushrods, not messing with the top end. I'll get the spacer kit. Anyone else know about those other 2 items? Also,I've read that it's better to get a front roller chain as well, instead of re-using the original one(which the SE kit recommends). Where can I buy just that front roller chain? I know people talk about Herko's kit and others, but I don't need a whole kit as I already have SE kit, cam cover gasket, and inner bearings. Damn, I may as well put cams in if I'm doing all this huh? I have been looking at Andrews 21's for a while. I didn't expect to be doing any of this work, so I'm thinking I should spend a couple hundred more and get the cams too. Now about that-I will need to get the conversion cams correct? I think it's Andrews 21N? That requires an install kit too right? Thanks again for everyones replies, i know I'm going in 10 directions with this thread, but I'd appreciate feedback as I want to get this done ASAP
Last edited by rancid13; Apr 1, 2013 at 06:31 PM.
Be careful of that SE hydro kit. It replaces the outer chain with a roller type, but reuses the inner link chain. There have been threads on here with guys burning through the inner hydro shoe at 20k. All depends on how smooth your link chains are to begin with. If you've got high miles and the shoes are in decent shape, you might get away with reusing the inner chain for awhile. There are other upgrade kits out there, but they include cams as the link chain cams won't work with the roller type chains.
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Be careful of that SE hydro kit. It replaces the outer chain with a roller type, but reuses the inner link chain. There have been threads on here with guys burning through the inner hydro shoe at 20k. All depends on how smooth your link chains are to begin with. If you've got high miles and the shoes are in decent shape, you might get away with reusing the inner chain for awhile. There are other upgrade kits out there, but they include cams as the link chain cams won't work with the roller type chains.
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You're probably two posts ahead of me again!
Haven't done the swap myself yet. It's on the list for probably next winter, but I'm thinking I'll just swap out the stock tensioners for a new set. I had the cover off last winter to check them and they looked damn good for almost 50k.
Plus, I'm real happy with the current cams and headwork combo. Maybe when I go big bore I'll pull the trigger on the cam upgrade. Good luck, sorry I couldn't help more. Bike looks badass though! Hope all the issues get sorted out. I've got my own little idle control gremlins I'm trying to work out before it gets warm. Sucks!
You're probably two posts ahead of me again!
Haven't done the swap myself yet. It's on the list for probably next winter, but I'm thinking I'll just swap out the stock tensioners for a new set. I had the cover off last winter to check them and they looked damn good for almost 50k.
Plus, I'm real happy with the current cams and headwork combo. Maybe when I go big bore I'll pull the trigger on the cam upgrade. Good luck, sorry I couldn't help more. Bike looks badass though! Hope all the issues get sorted out. I've got my own little idle control gremlins I'm trying to work out before it gets warm. Sucks!
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Just my opinion (I was trying not to be one either) but I have been broken enough and so old that I know the next big one will probably make me trike ready. However, the apes and no fender would scare me at 75. Also, not sure why but my stock 04 owners manual says not to exceed 90 and with two up it's 80. I am not sure if that was for tire rating or just stability in 04 Softails.
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Yes, you will need the other two pieces. I did not get the full conversion,
so if you go with Andrews, make sure the roller chain comes with them or H-D sells it separately. I'm not sure about that. If you're leaving the engine otherwise stock, the 21 or 26 would be good choices.
so if you go with Andrews, make sure the roller chain comes with them or H-D sells it separately. I'm not sure about that. If you're leaving the engine otherwise stock, the 21 or 26 would be good choices.
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Yes, you will need the other two pieces. I did not get the full conversion, so if you go with Andrews, make sure the roller chain comes with them or H-D sells it separately. I'm not sure about that. If you're leaving the engine otherwise stock, the 21 or 26 would be good choices.
so if you go with Andrews, make sure the roller chain comes with them or H-D sells it separately. I'm not sure about that. If you're leaving the engine otherwise stock, the 21 or 26 would be good choices.