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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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"One ride is not enough to judge the bike" .....I'm here to tell ya guy, it is. I have put a mile or two on in my riding career. And, from a sales stand point, the bike has to be impressive even on one ride. We have a test ride route that purposely has some straights, some twisties, and interstate. So we do give the bikes the opportunity to shine in all areas. I wasn't bagging on the bike, just giving an opinion on it from the viewpoint of someone who rides. I ride everyday. Up until a month ago, I didn't even have a cage. If you have one and like it, good. I can tell you, we haven't sold one yet. Even the cvo models we have had we have dealer traded....
Hey Brett,

I don't doubt that your review is honest and accurate and that you don't mean to bash on the model. However, I would say that your statement above is rather incomplete. I have not doubt that you found the Breakout wanting and I agree with you that one ride can pretty much sum up the bike for you. HOWEVER, I think a more accurate statement is that one ride is enough to judge on whether or not a model is right...FOR YOU. Otherwise you are suggesting that we are all built the same and have the same sensibilities about riding which just isn't true. Even someone with your exact dimensions can have a totally different idea of what is good and bad in terms of each of the different characteristics. Maybe I don't need to say any of this if you meant that YOU didn't care for the bike. But the tone of your review seemed to have more of a "steer clear of this model because I didn't like it and no one is buying it where I work". That would be no different than if I told everyone how much I loved my Crossbones from day one, therefore it is a perfect Harley for all!
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Hey Brett,

I don't doubt that your review is honest and accurate and that you don't mean to bash on the model. However, I would say that your statement above is rather incomplete. I have not doubt that you found the Breakout wanting and I agree with you that one ride can pretty much sum up the bike for you. HOWEVER, I think a more accurate statement is that one ride is enough to judge on whether or not a model is right...FOR YOU. Otherwise you are suggesting that we are all built the same and have the same sensibilities about riding which just isn't true. Even someone with your exact dimensions can have a totally different idea of what is good and bad in terms of each of the different characteristics. Maybe I don't need to say any of this if you meant that YOU didn't care for the bike. But the tone of your review seemed to have more of a "steer clear of this model because I didn't like it and no one is buying it where I work". That would be no different than if I told everyone how much I loved my Crossbones from day one, therefore it is a perfect Harley for all!
Wasn't my intention at all. If you look at my first post, it was very generic. The only thing I mentioned that is specific to dimensions of the rider is sitting position. The only reason I mentioned the sales aspect was in response to the judging a bike by one ride comment. That is EXACTLY what happens when a potential customer test rides ANY of these bikes. Not every HD customer is the diehard biker that can handle any machine and could ride a rigid from New Jersey to Cali with no problem. Is the Breakout rideable? Absolutely. Did I say it was horrible? No. I pointed out a few things that could be expected. Sure, riding position could be easily changed, and is all the time on every model. Do I personally think a 240 is too much tire? Yes. Did I say that? Nope, simply said it was slow to get into curves.

Like I said numerous times, I wasn't bagging on the breakout. Every model has its pros and cons. Just giving a look at it, in stock form, from the view point of someone who buys a bike to ride. I average 260-300 miles a week, just to work, on a motorcycle. That is not including any riding I may do outside of my commute to the shop. But, no matter how much I ride, I am not a real biker because I don't enjoy having to muscle a 240 back tire into a turn. Probably even more so because one of my bikes has a fairing.

There as been at least one thread with guys asking for a ride report on this machine, thats what I gave.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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brettnbama it wasn't my intention to bash your review. I do think your review is YOUR honest opinion. I don't think the breakout is for everyone, just like the rocker either you love em or you hate em. when I rode the breakout I compared it to other choppers I have rode in the past Big Dog, Ironhorse, Wild West, etc. I can tell you this that the breakout is a cadillac compared to those. There is no vibration at all with the counter-balanced 103. I had to travel 3 hrs one way to the 9th rated in the Nation Harley Dealer just to buy one for MSRP. All my local dealers are selling them for 5K over MSRP (they are getting it too). The local 6 dealers have all sold there first one before they went into inventory. Only a few of them have even gotten a 2nd one yet (and those sold also). The breakout is not my only bike but I do think it is a fun bike to ride. By no means am I riding it cross-country or on a 3K trip. I'm 36 years old and the breakout is my first Harley it appeals to me and reminds me alot of my dad's Harley's back in the 80's.

Here is mine in vivd black

 

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brettnbama
The handle bars are too low and when combined with the bend in my knees I felt like I looked rediculous.

Power to weight ratio is awesome. With a stage 1 and maybe some cams, it would be heaps of fun.

I made a nice easy right turn at 15-20 miles per hour and drug the crap out of the pegs. .

I rode both at Daytona bike week

the bars on the CVO are TONS better then the non-CVO, they would be the first thing I would change

the power is awesome

I also drag peg in the corner and didn't think I was even into the turn that hard, so I completely understand your last comment
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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I like the look, I like the concept. All in all I like the Breakout. There were just a few things I didn't like.

I see you said your dealers are marking them up 5-6 g's. We aren't, if anyone is looking...lol
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by brettnbama
Do I personally think a 240 is too much tire? Yes. Did I say that? Nope, simply said it was slow to get into curves.
But it's not at all. Just got to know what you're doing. Getting off the average Harley, a sport bike feels funny in turns too. Nothin' wrong with the way they go around corners though.

Lots of miles on your personal bike doesn't teach you how to ride other bikes.
 

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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I prefer the looks of the non-CVO version. Too much chrome on the CVO version. You'd never ride the thing because you'd spend a month cleaning it.

Damn good looking bike though. I wonder if the weird seating feeling was due to your height.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
But it's not at all. Just got to know what you're doing. Getting off the average Harley, a sport bike feels funny in turns too. Nothin' wrong with the way they go around corners though.

Lots of miles on your personal bike doesn't teach you how to ride other bikes.
OK dude. You're right. I don't know what I am doing. You missed the part that said I PERSONALLY felt like it was too much tire. I don't just have miles on my bikes either. Because of my job, I ride numerous different machines. I have ridden every model in the current line up and a ton of the older models.
 

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brettnbama
But, no matter how much I ride, I am not a real biker because I don't enjoy having to muscle a 240 back tire into a turn.
"Muscle a 240 tire into a turn"?
Dude, a 240 rear tire is what my ol' lady rides. LOL
She's 115 pounds, or somethin' like that.
 

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