Vance & Hines fuel pak?!!
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Vance & Hines fuel pak?!!
I just bought this 2005 Heritage Softail from a friend with V&H straight shots installed and stock air cleaner. I called up the HD shop to see if it had the stage 1 download and dude said it did. I installed a V&H VO2 DRAK air cleaner and took it for a ride to see how it performs. Got popping at times between gears and on decel. It wasn't doing this with the stock air cleaner. Will a fuel pak make any difference or would I just be wasting money. Also, if It will make a difference, would I have to revert back to the original mapping for the fuel pak to do it's job with the parameters outlined for my combo? New to the EFI, TC scene so please accept my apologies if this question is too fundamental.
Thanks, elev8rguy
Thanks, elev8rguy
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IMHO the FuelPak is a waste of time as it is extremely limited in it's adjustability...not to mention the folks there are about as useful as a football bat when it comes to tuning. It was originally installed on my bike with a set of short shots when I got it and the thing had gobs of decel pop and popped heavily mid-shift. Decided to scrap it and go with a Power Commander which definitely improved my popping. Installing baffles in your pipes would clear up most, if not all of your issues. hope this helps.
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From: Noneya, Business
The fuel pak is set-up for a high flow air cleaner & exhaust, it is limited in its abilities, but it is way cheaper than the Power Commanders and you can install it yourself.. It will most definitley help with the decel pop, I have one installed on my 2010 Fatboy Lo w/ V&H staggered short shots (black) and a STOCK air cleaner from a fatbob (swoopback). I immediately noticed the return of my low end horse power and my fuel mileage go up.. IMHO if you arent running cames or the big bore kits, you shouldn't need a Power Commander or Thundermax..
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Will a fuel pak make any difference or would I just be wasting money.
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IMHO the FuelPak is a waste of time as it is extremely limited in it's adjustability...not to mention the folks there are about as useful as a football bat when it comes to tuning. It was originally installed on my bike with a set of short shots when I got it and the thing had gobs of decel pop and popped heavily mid-shift. Decided to scrap it and go with a Power Commander which definitely improved my popping. Installing baffles in your pipes would clear up most, if not all of your issues. hope this helps.
The fuel pak is set-up for a high flow air cleaner & exhaust, it is limited in its abilities, but it is way cheaper than the Power Commanders and you can install it yourself.. It will most definitley help with the decel pop, I have one installed on my 2010 Fatboy Lo w/ V&H staggered short shots (black) and a STOCK air cleaner from a fatbob (swoopback). I immediately noticed the return of my low end horse power and my fuel mileage go up.. IMHO if you arent running cames or the big bore kits, you shouldn't need a Power Commander or Thundermax..
It is an on the cheap way to go till I decide how much money I want to throw at the things
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I've heard many people put down the Vance and Hines fuelpak. All I can say is this, I had one on my 2012 Dyna Wide Glide and it worked the way it was intended to work. I had the Vance and Hines twin slash slip ons. Before the fuelpak, I had lots of popping on decel and lots of backfiring while shifting gears. The Fuelpack eliminated about 90% of all that nuisance. The bike pulled harder with the fuelpak. Plus, when I shifted gears and closed the throttle, the sound from the pipes sounded really nice. Would I buy it again? I tried to, but it wouldn't work on my new Breakout. So, I opted for the Power Vision. I am so glad I did. If you can swing the extra cost of the Power Vision it is 100% worth it. If you decide to get it, make sure you get the Power Vision from Fuel Moto. Their stage 1 billet air cleaner only cost $50 if you buy the Power Vision from them. Their tech support and free MAP is great too.
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Ive used the Fuel Pak and like many people sold it and went to another tuner.
The Fuel Pak is Ok for what itt is a Fuel Tuner , it adds or removes fuel- period. The down side is it is proprietary and only V & H knows the mode setting. IMO its better than the stage 1.
The Fuel Pak will work on your bike with the Stage 1 , V & H has settings for stock and Stage 1 ECM.
But IMO fopr the $ there are a lot better tuners out there and just as easy to install and use. For Fuel only Fuel Moto has a micro tuner , for a true tuner that will adjust timing and fuel look at the Dyno Jet PC V or best yet is any of the flash tuners - Power Vision, SERT, TTS ect
The Fuel Pak is Ok for what itt is a Fuel Tuner , it adds or removes fuel- period. The down side is it is proprietary and only V & H knows the mode setting. IMO its better than the stage 1.
The Fuel Pak will work on your bike with the Stage 1 , V & H has settings for stock and Stage 1 ECM.
But IMO fopr the $ there are a lot better tuners out there and just as easy to install and use. For Fuel only Fuel Moto has a micro tuner , for a true tuner that will adjust timing and fuel look at the Dyno Jet PC V or best yet is any of the flash tuners - Power Vision, SERT, TTS ect
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Some people like to screw with stuff, a fuelpak is a bad choice for them.
Some people like to brag, so they want dyno tunes, a fuelpak is bad for them.
some people like to live out thier dreams of having the HotRod they wanted in high school, therefore dyno sheets are part of that need, a fuelpak is bad for them.
Some people I do not understand, but hey want a display like a super tachometer on thier bars, A fuelpak is bad for them.
Some people, like me, want the very best money can buy, a fuelpak is bad for them.
Some people, want the most bang for thier buck and don't really care what the guys are the local watering hole are going to say, they find a used fuelpak off ebay for $75 and ride thier bike.
The fuelpak is fine for what you are wanting it for. Can you do a dyno run with it, no. Do you need a dyno run, no. However, you don't want to tell people you have a fuelpak, they will tease you.
Some people like to brag, so they want dyno tunes, a fuelpak is bad for them.
some people like to live out thier dreams of having the HotRod they wanted in high school, therefore dyno sheets are part of that need, a fuelpak is bad for them.
Some people I do not understand, but hey want a display like a super tachometer on thier bars, A fuelpak is bad for them.
Some people, like me, want the very best money can buy, a fuelpak is bad for them.
Some people, want the most bang for thier buck and don't really care what the guys are the local watering hole are going to say, they find a used fuelpak off ebay for $75 and ride thier bike.
The fuelpak is fine for what you are wanting it for. Can you do a dyno run with it, no. Do you need a dyno run, no. However, you don't want to tell people you have a fuelpak, they will tease you.
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Obviously there's love/hate opinions out there when it comes to the Fuel Pak.
If I was to buy a new stage 1 "fuel tuner" it would be a Micro EFI Tuner from Fuel Moto.
That being said, I love that others hate the Fuel Pak because I was able to get mind off e-bay for half the price of a new one.
My setup- 2009 Heritage- V&H Short shots staggereds- SE AC-stage 1 dealer download
Before the Fuel Pak- good performance, average mpg 36, oil temp 235 degrees?, constant decel pop.
After the Fuel Pak- better low end, average mpg 40, oil temp 220 degrees?, no decel pop.
The only issue is the used one didn't come with a deep ecm tray but I picked one up at the dealer for $10.
If you plan on staying with only a stage 1 for a while and can get the Fuel Pak for under $150 on e-Bay I recommend it.
If you are going to buy new and only want a fuel tuner, go with the Fuel Moto Micro EFI tuner.
If I was to buy a new stage 1 "fuel tuner" it would be a Micro EFI Tuner from Fuel Moto.
That being said, I love that others hate the Fuel Pak because I was able to get mind off e-bay for half the price of a new one.
My setup- 2009 Heritage- V&H Short shots staggereds- SE AC-stage 1 dealer download
Before the Fuel Pak- good performance, average mpg 36, oil temp 235 degrees?, constant decel pop.
After the Fuel Pak- better low end, average mpg 40, oil temp 220 degrees?, no decel pop.
The only issue is the used one didn't come with a deep ecm tray but I picked one up at the dealer for $10.
If you plan on staying with only a stage 1 for a while and can get the Fuel Pak for under $150 on e-Bay I recommend it.
If you are going to buy new and only want a fuel tuner, go with the Fuel Moto Micro EFI tuner.
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go ahead and spend a little more and get a pcIII or pcV from jamie at fuelmoto. He will program what you need and any program changes you need he will do for free since you bought from him. It will run way better with no popping and they will also change the rev limit and improve throttle progression. I would make sure I got something that could progress with my changes in the future, ie: cams, big bore, etc. I went with the powervision since I added cams and will probably do full bigger bore later.