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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:22 PM
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I have a friend selling some off his bike that he just totaled. are these cams any good?
 
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I have the 211's on my build. I couldn't be happier with them.
 
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I have a friend selling some off his bike that he just totaled. are these cams any good?

That cam likes high compression. Unless you change your pistons to bump your compression ratio, you'll probably be disappointed.

And, if you're exploring headwork to bump up the CR, there are better cam choices from the aftermarket.

Judging by your username, if you have an 06 stock 88" motor, you'd probably be better off with an Andrews 21, or possibly an Andrews 26 if you're thinking of going big bore.
 
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That cam likes high compression. Unless you change your pistons to bump your compression ratio, you'll probably be disappointed.

And, if you're exploring headwork to bump up the CR, there are better cam choices from the aftermarket.

Judging by your username, if you have an 06 stock 88" motor, you'd probably be better off with an Andrews 21, or possibly an Andrews 26 if you're thinking of going big bore.
yeah my motor itself is stock so I need a cam that likes lower compression. I need to update my sig. I now own a 2012 blackline. any suggestions for a low compression motor that has a lopey idle?
 
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I didn't know that about the SE211 cams! See what I mean to those who treat new people poorly or an experienced rider who asks a simple question that most thinks an experienced rider should know or ask a question that has been covered many time but a question that is new to them?? I now know why the SE 211 cam was recommended and that was picked to be used on my motor. My build is a high compression motor. I still learn something new almost each and every day. This site is GREAT for many reasons but the knowledge used and shared here is tremendous.
 

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yeah my motor itself is stock so I need a cam that likes lower compression. I need to update my sig. I now own a 2012 blackline. any suggestions for a low compression motor that has a lopey idle?

Hmmm...the best advice that can be given about cams is to really be honest with yourself about your riding styles and needs.

For that I mean, do you ride 1 up, 2 up, combination, etc. Where do you want your power? Low RPM grunt, or are you looking for something that will hit it's power a little later, say around 2800 RPMs, but carry through to redline?

There are so many good choices out there, and most people only really experience the cam they choose, and have a limited depth to formulate facts.

Andrews grinds cams for a variety of other manufacturers. They're well known, and they're some of the less expensive options out there.

If you're planning to stick with a stock 103" engine, you might consider either the Andrews 48, 54, or 57. I'm personally in the middle of an upgrade to the 57 in my 110".

If you're concerned about staying with SE parts, the SE255 is a good cam, with lots of low end grunt. It's stock in the CVO bikes. The torque down low is strong, but the cam runs out of breath around 38-4200 RPMs. CVO 110" motors have low compression. But...the SE255 does run hot.

You should feel comfortable calling various manufacturers like Andrews, Woods, etc, and even call Fuel Moto, Hillside Cycles, etc to discuss how you ride, and what they'd recommend.

Bolt in cams are numerous, but nearly every cam will perform even better with headwork. That's where stuff started to get a little pricey!

Good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by Redbeard719
Hmmm...the best advice that can be given about cams is to really be honest with yourself about your riding styles and needs.

For that I mean, do you ride 1 up, 2 up, combination, etc. Where do you want your power? Low RPM grunt, or are you looking for something that will hit it's power a little later, say around 2800 RPMs, but carry through to redline?

There are so many good choices out there, and most people only really experience the cam they choose, and have a limited depth to formulate facts.

Andrews grinds cams for a variety of other manufacturers. They're well known, and they're some of the less expensive options out there.

If you're planning to stick with a stock 103" engine, you might consider either the Andrews 48, 54, or 57. I'm personally in the middle of an upgrade to the 57 in my 110".

If you're concerned about staying with SE parts, the SE255 is a good cam, with lots of low end grunt. It's stock in the CVO bikes. The torque down low is strong, but the cam runs out of breath around 38-4200 RPMs. CVO 110" motors have low compression. But...the SE255 does run hot.

You should feel comfortable calling various manufacturers like Andrews, Woods, etc, and even call Fuel Moto, Hillside Cycles, etc to discuss how you ride, and what they'd recommend.

Bolt in cams are numerous, but nearly every cam will perform even better with headwork. That's where stuff started to get a little pricey!

Good luck!
thanks! yeah I ride more in town, bar hopper. I really don't want to get into the motor that much (only have 1000 miles on it). I like the low end power, light to light. I do want the cams to have a real choppy idle though.
 
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Without a comp bump, everything I've read and heard says the 211's are lazy under 3k, even worse than stock.. after 3k they make good tq and hp..
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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I'm going with some SE 204's in my 08 Night Train. They sound nasty at idle but also perform very well for a bolt in cam.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PearlWhiteGT
I'm going with some SE 204's in my 08 Night Train. They sound nasty at idle but also perform very well for a bolt in cam.
What he said..
 
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