Smart Security System
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Tourer
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Man the service guys at the dealer near me are awesome. So I asked them if its possible. At first the counter guy was like we can try to program the bcm to be keyless and if it doesn't work we won't charge you anything. He said they just haven't tried it before since keyless was new for sportsters in 2014. Then he said actually, let me just get your number and we will try it on a showroom floor model and I'll call you with the results. So regardless, its all a matter of programming the bcm to be keyless. Anxiously awaiting his call. He said give him a couple hours.
Last edited by Airframer; Feb 13, 2015 at 11:08 AM.
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The ignition switch is a physical switch. If it's off, it stops current flow. You can't "reprogram" around that. At a bare minimum you'll also either have to wire in whatever Harley uses to replace the ignition switch if you want to get keyless operation or somehow short the ignition switch permanently into the "run" position.
It would be interesting to see if you can wire up a switch from a softail or something. I was given one when I left the shop my 48, and when I went to lunch and tried to turn it off, there were no keys in the bike at all. Freaked me out until I figured its just a lock to turn the switch, not for the ignition.
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It can't be.
The ignition switch is a physical switch. If it's off, it stops current flow. You can't "reprogram" around that. At a bare minimum you'll also either have to wire in whatever Harley uses to replace the ignition switch if you want to get keyless operation or somehow short the ignition switch permanently into the "run" position.
The ignition switch is a physical switch. If it's off, it stops current flow. You can't "reprogram" around that. At a bare minimum you'll also either have to wire in whatever Harley uses to replace the ignition switch if you want to get keyless operation or somehow short the ignition switch permanently into the "run" position.
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I would be interested if someone with a keyless model had time next time they take their tank off to snap a picture of the connectors that come from the right switches so I could see the color of wires. There are two connectors under the gas tank from the wires for the handle bar start and kill switch on the keyed model.
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I have a 2014 Iron. I thought if you get the smart security system you could run your bike with out the key. I've installed it on my bike, the dealer programmed the FOBS, just got home and messing with it trying to figure out how to run it with out the key with out success. Starts fine with the key and I see the alarm arming and disarming itself. Am I missing something? Is there more required for key-less ignitions than just the smart security system?
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Not really what I'm talking about but thanks anyways. I have another idea planned and when parts get here we will see if I can make it work. I actually might like it more than turning the bike on at the handlebars like the factory keyless.
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I've got a 2011 with a fob and key. I would like to take the ignition key switch out and replace it with a hidden toggle switch and use the fob for security.
Would I just need to replace the ignition switch or would there be more rewiring for the fob?
Would I just need to replace the ignition switch or would there be more rewiring for the fob?
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You can remove the keyed ignition switch and replace it with a switch. You would lose ACC function though unless you found a switch that supported that. Give me a week or so and I'll post if what I have planned will work. I'm going to have to fab a mounting point for the switch I ordered and it should be the best solution. I'm waiting to release information till I have it functioning or it could be pointless for someone to read through all the writ-ups on it and then it not work... I'm also going to post it under a new thread when I get it complete should it work.
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I'm not sure if it can be retrofitted, or (like ABS) it has to be factory installed.