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For reference, my '99 1200 has a stock 3.3 gallon tank. Stage 1 only. I hit reserve once at 120 miles. I typically fill up at 100 miles to be safe. I'm getting 49 mpg. My last Sporty, a '97 1200 got very similar results with same set-up.
What's your riding style? Mine is pretty mellow. If your Ricky Racer then maybe your MPG is affected by your RPM's.
For reference, my '99 1200 has a stock 3.3 gallon tank. Stage 1 only. I hit reserve once at 120 miles. I typically fill up at 100 miles to be safe. I'm getting 49 mpg. My last Sporty, a '97 1200 got very similar results with same set-up.
What's your riding style? Mine is pretty mellow. If your Ricky Racer then maybe your MPG is affected by your RPM's.
Ooof....looks like I need to check out some stuff. I run a little fast, and I do know that I am running a little rich, but I didn't think I was running THAT rich. I literally just got it back from a carb rebuild/tune and so I thought I'd be ok, until I pulled my spark plugs while doing my coil relocation a couple weeks ago and noticed they were a little sooty considering how recently all that work had been done.
On my Son's 2001 1200 Sportster with the 3.3 (I thought it was 3.5 gal) it goes about 90-100 miles before hitting reserve maybe 110-120 if you are real light on the throttle.
You should be able to get much more than 25-30 MPH out of first gear. I don't bounce the rev limiter till 45 or 50 in first. IF you are geared that low and really are hitting the rev limiter at 25 mph it may explain the poor mileage.
50 mph in first ? That sounds like a pretty aggressive riding style . Why do you need to bounce the rev limiter at all ? I'm not a slow rider but I've never been close to the rev limiter . In fact , it's news to me that a Sportster actually has one . My engine "Tells" me when to change up without me ever having to look at the tachometer . ( 04 XL 1200 Roadster ) If you're doing 50 in first what do you do with the other four gears may I ask ?
So after reading this thread, and also conferring with my buddy who owns and works on HDs, it seems like I need to do two things.
1) Check the carburetor plunger to make sure it's not sticking/stuck.
2) Check my carburetor jet size.
I'm guessing it's #2, based on the fact that when I bought the bike, it had V&H pipes and K&N filter system on it....and so I'm guessing the kid put that stuff on it, but never had the jet size changed.
Obviously, I'm also going to check out #1 while I'm in there.
So after reading this thread, and also conferring with my buddy who owns and works on HDs, it seems like I need to do two things.
1) Check the carburetor plunger to make sure it's not sticking/stuck.
2) Check my carburetor jet size.
I'm guessing it's #2, based on the fact that when I bought the bike, it had V&H pipes and K&N filter system on it....and so I'm guessing the kid put that stuff on it, but never had the jet size changed.
Obviously, I'm also going to check out #1 while I'm in there.
Does this sound about right to y'all?
45 pilot 180 main is pretty much the standard setup for V&H pipes and free breathing filter . Have you got the SE back plate and bigger filter or just a K&N in a stock air box ? I've just discovered that I've got a SE setup on mine . ( See Air Filter Question thread )
45 pilot 180 main is pretty much the standard setup for V&H pipes and free breathing filter . Have you got the SE back plate and bigger filter or just a K&N in a stock air box ? I've just discovered that I've got a SE setup on mine . ( See Air Filter Question thread )
This is what I have:
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I don't know what backplate this is...
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K&N filter, stock box.
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Additionally, I found this:
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After replacing, she already runs a million times better. Completely different machine, not having an intake leak now! It's like night and day.
All decel popping is gone. I expect to see better mpg. Runs much smoother and quieter.
Will update soon...
50 mph in first ? That sounds like a pretty aggressive riding style . Why do you need to bounce the rev limiter at all ? I'm not a slow rider but I've never been close to the rev limiter . In fact , it's news to me that a Sportster actually has one . My engine "Tells" me when to change up without me ever having to look at the tachometer . ( 04 XL 1200 Roadster ) If you're doing 50 in first what do you do with the other four gears may I ask ?
Originally Posted by Midpegs
I'm not suggesting that anyone has to do things by the book but here's the book .
Those are "Recomended" shift points. I'm talking Maximum shift points.
I'm accelerating hard pulling onto interstates where traffic is flowing at 75 MPH and the idiots in front of me merging are only going 40 MPH. I'm enjoying just rolling on the throttle and getting up to speed as quick as I can.
If you have never hit the rev limiter on a Sportster you need to live a little more and learn how to get on the throttle.
Update:
I rode the bike to work today on reserve and after work filled up - 3.1 gallons. So I guess it was as simple as running out of gas. Now my question: why am I getting poor gas milage? I have a few thoughts and would love input:
1. All city driving - I don't have to get on the HW at all
2. Haven't ridden a moto in about 3 years so I'm still getting used to throttle and shifting; therefore I'm probably not efficient with gas 3. It feel reallllly low geared to me. Other bikes I've had (Honda Silverwing and a Bonnie) I was out of 1st at 20mph max; this bike I'm in 1st until 25-30mph; is this normal for harleys or could it have been adjusted to be low geared? And could that have anything to do with fuel economy?
Thanks y'all!
Actually you have this part backwards. If it were geared LOWER than your other bikes, you would be shifting before 20, but you are shifting much higher. A LOWER gearing will cause the engine to rev to limit quicker. A 1200 Sportster is geared fairly high compared to many bikes.
My '07 (fuel injected) 1200, gets 45+ on the highway (I have gotten 50, once), and between 40-45 in town. I seldom do much riding in town since I avoid cities, and our cities are small compared to most.
I have hit the rev limiter twice on mine, and it is usually when passing someone driving very slow that has just pulled away from a stop sign, and I am sick of following them. Mine seems to pull hard then nothing (limiter). There is no obvious drop in power, to me. That was when I first had the bike, so now I am a lot more familiar with it, knowing when to shift, before hitting the limiter. But as a rule I am usually nowhere near it. I still want a tach.
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