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You won't lose your brakes as such, but the brake fluid will start degrading after two years, hence for us with ABS, a trip to the dealers to hand over more ŁŁŁŁŁ
From what I have read you do loose your brakes, brake lever or foot lever will go rock hard and you have no brakes.
That's what everyone is so upset about...it would be one thing just to loose the ABS part of it and still have normal brakes but apparently when this happens you have no brakes at all on either front or rear or in some extreme cases no brakes in the front and rear at the same time.
Very very dangerous.
You won't lose your brakes as such, but the brake fluid will start degrading after two years, hence for us with ABS, a trip to the dealers to hand over more ŁŁŁŁŁ
The current recall regarding the brake failures was for complete loss of braking due to a stuck/corroded vale in the ABS circuit. The apply valve, which normally lets fluid flow to the caliper even without ABS active, fails shut and blocks the flow of any fluid to the caliper. The result is a rock hard lever with no braking power. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
If you need to bleed the fluid in the ABS module for some reason, you HAVE to use a tool to cycle it. You can try the old school way all you want, but it's a real bear to get air out of that module and is so much easier to just run the cycle.
If you stay ahead of it you can do the old flush, activate ABS on the road (dirt/grass and grab a lot of brake!) a few times to mix all the fluid, repeat. Works well on cars, can be riskier on bikes due to less wheels.
If you stay ahead of it you can do the old flush, activate ABS on the road (dirt/grass and grab a lot of brake!) a few times to mix all the fluid, repeat. Works well on cars, can be riskier on bikes due to less wheels.
I consider this part of the routine maintenance of any bike with ABS. Several times a season activating the ABS with a hard grab or hard peddle and you can feel the pulsing of the abs module valves. I would do it on the street, but only with no traffic, and a straight road ahead, and you don't have to be going fast.
Bottom line, if you can afford a new bike, you can afford one with abs, and you can afford to maintain it properly, this is no place to pinch pennies.
Last edited by LoneWoolf; Mar 18, 2018 at 03:35 AM.
When I cold start my 17 Road King the ABS light stays on. When I pull the front brake at idle on startup, I feel some type of motor running or a vibration in the brake system. After taking off the light goes out, it no longer feels that way. Do you think it's the pump running, circulating the fluid for a short time ?
I consider this part of the routine maintenance of any bike with ABS. Several times a season activating the ABS with a hard grab or hard peddle and you can feel the pulsing of the abs module valves. I would do it on the street, but only with no traffic, and a straight road ahead, and you don't have to be going fast.
Bottom line, if you can afford a new bike, you can afford one with abs, and you can afford to maintain it properly, this is no place to pinch pennies.
When I bought my bike I could afford it, due to circumstances I couldnt anticipate, I cant afford it now.
When I used to take my bike for its bi-annual service a brake fluid flush was built in and the cost was very little as the time it takes to do isn't very long. I have read some US dealers have really milked the costs for doing a brake flush on the ABS bikes. With a vacuum device it should only take an hour to do for an experienced person, in my estimation.
I bought the ITM tool and did a fluid flush a few weeks ago now. I also changed the pads. There was a noticeably good change in the way the brakes work. The kit will pay for itself the next time I do a fluid flush.
On my bike the only warning light is the "ABS is not working". It flashes until the bike has moved a few feet and the system detects both wheels are turning at the same rate.
If I had an ABS bike Id get the ABS kit and run my own, that and helping a few mates would be enough to justify the cost.
Thankfully and by choice none of my HDs have ABS. Ive never been helped or assisted by ABS on any bike, it only aggravates when hard braking.
Been on some sketchy oil soaked, freshly rained upon roads that were a challenge and while traction control has saved my *** countless times, ABS never has.
For new or novice riders its a good thing, stops the panicked front lockup low side.
I recommend that my novice mates to get the ABS. After I get my old man rant on - get on a 125 or 250 dirt bike first, spend some time in gravel and dirt slipping and sliding. Fall down, learn to bail off the bike. Learn body positions and how they affect the bike, learn to steer with the foot pegs. Even if youre not riding aggressively it will pay off in emergency maneuvers.
Really, I have immense respect for a new rider that jumps straight to the street. I wouldnt have made it to grumpy old man age without my dirt experience.
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