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Old May 24, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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has anyone mixed tires (Michelin on front Dunlop American elite on back). 3K miles ago I replaced front and rear on my 2016XL 1200C with Michelin Scorchers (they were on sale) I have been wanting to switch to Dunlop American elite II.
well today while I was out riding I got a roofing nail dead center in the rear tire. I plugged it to get home and get to my dealer. I want to put an American elite II on the rear. I have never mixed brands before.
Are their problems mixing brands or is it fine.
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 02:44 PM
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I run a pirelli on the front and a shinko on the rear with no problem. 07 XL1200L if that matters.
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 03:59 PM
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If you plugged it right you have plentily of time to decide. The last time I plugged a rear tire I ran it 6 months before I replaced it. For the record I have never had a plug come loose and I have been riding for 57 years.
 
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If you plugged it right you have plentily of time to decide. The last time I plugged a rear tire I ran it 6 months before I replaced it. For the record I have never had a plug come loose and I have been riding for 57 years.
thanks. I am pretty sure I plugged it right.
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 05:20 PM
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The only rule when mixing tires is when you mix radial & bias ply tires.
Radial on the rear & bias up front - OK
Bias on the rear & radial up front - NOT OK
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cHarley
The only rule when mixing tires is when you mix radial & bias ply tires.
Radial on the rear & bias up front - OK
Bias on the rear & radial up front - NOT OK
I’ve done it both ways and never noticed any adverse effects.
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 08:35 PM
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Because you have doesn't mean you should.
 
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I would like to see some solid evidence that says you shouldn’t.. Bias cross ply technology has come a long way since the old Bias ply tires that were wobbly...
I currently have a Elite III Bias ply on the rear and a radial on the front and i can’t see any adverse effect, it’s not the 1st time I’ve run the combo either in the 100000 miles I’ve had the bike...
 
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The adverse effects come in play when you're pushing the limits of the tires and the two constructions have entirely different reactions. This can lead to minor geometry changes and road force changes that may seem insignificant but can be the cause of extremely dangerous instabilities. And when I say instabilities, think uncontrollable tank slappers or sudden loss of traction.

Manufacturers can mix because they are tested at the extremes and the instability is eliminated in the design process. If you deviate from the original construction in a bad way, that is when you run in to problems.

Also, it is widely known in the car world that mixing radial and bias ply the wrong way is extremely dangerous.
 

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Originally Posted by cHarley
The only rule when mixing tires is when you mix radial & bias ply tires.
Radial on the rear & bias up front - OK
Bias on the rear & radial up front - NOT OK
Radial front/bias rear is illegal in the UK per this link https://www.tyresafe.org/wp-content/...pp_spreads.pdf
The other way around (radial rear, bias front) is not so unusual and is the stock setup on some bikes from HD, Triumph, etc.
For Sportsters the 100/90-19 front tire on many bikes is only made in bias ply for many (possibly all 90 profile MC tires are bias ply ??) makes and models even when a matching rear radial is available
 

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