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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 12:36 AM
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where is the catalytic converter on a 2021 48?
 
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Originally Posted by Stevoknievo68
where is the catalytic converter on a 2021 48?
They are in the mufflers.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:02 AM
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For the US, Australia, California and India just in the mufflers.
From the price of the header pipe it looks like Asia, England, HDI and Japan may also have CATs in the header pipe.

65600094 HEADER PIPE (AUSTRALIA, CALIFORNIA, DOMESTIC, INDIA) 1 172.49
65600182 HEADER PIPE (ASIA-PACIFIC, ENGLAND, HDI, JAPAN) 1 761.99
 
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They are in the mufflers.
in that case if I go to my dealer with different slip on mufflers without cats in them what would be voided? Just my exhaust system or the whole bike?
 
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Originally Posted by Stevoknievo68
in that case if I go to my dealer with different slip on mufflers without cats in them what would be voided? Just my exhaust system or the whole bike?
Good question, I suppose they could as you would have modified the emission system(s) which got HD in hot water with the EPA. Usually it is voided for reflashing the ECM, I guess it would up to the dealer whether they would let it slide or not for aftermarket mufflers.

My understanding is you could/would only lose the power train part of the warranty.
 
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I don't get these differences. As shanneba pointed out the cats on my bike are in the headers.
 
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I don't get these differences. As shanneba pointed out the cats on my bike are in the headers.

My '17 had them in the mufflers. Don't quote me as I may be wrong on the year but it seems HD moved them from the headpipes to the mufflers around '12???
 
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I have a 2017.

The header on my bike is $761 compared to domestic of $172. Strangely on ronnies it doesn't show the rear header?

The muffler on my bike $344 and domestic is $280 each.

Seems outrages these costs as HD do a kit for just $185 that is for both headers

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H-D changed the position of the Sportsters catalytic converter on UK exhaust systems from the mufflers to the header pipes for the 2014 model year. The interconnection linkages were also changed from the mufflers to the headers at the same time.

I installed Python 2.5" slip-on mufflers on my 2011 XL883N, so my Sportster no longer has cat's fitted.


 
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Pretty sure removing the cat will definitely void the warranty.
 
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