Battery issues?
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I put a Yuasa YTX 14L in the 2008 here and although it has lasted quite a bit longer than 1.5 years it never seemed to crank the bike with any gusto.
I put a Yuasa YTX 14L battery in my 2017 last year and it always hesitated on the starter before cranking.
I have since put OEM batteries in both bikes and now they crank fast, no hesitation and the engine fires up sooner.
The HD battery has just a bit more oomph and CCA than the Yuasa. The original I had in the 2017 for about 6 years before it started to lag.
There is a Yuasa GYZ16HL but here it is more than the HD battery.
I put a Yuasa YTX 14L battery in my 2017 last year and it always hesitated on the starter before cranking.
I have since put OEM batteries in both bikes and now they crank fast, no hesitation and the engine fires up sooner.
The HD battery has just a bit more oomph and CCA than the Yuasa. The original I had in the 2017 for about 6 years before it started to lag.
There is a Yuasa GYZ16HL but here it is more than the HD battery.
Last edited by Andy from Sandy; Apr 11, 2024 at 08:53 AM.
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Ok so i did some parasitic drain testing first by disconnecting the - of the battery and hooked a meter between it.
When the bike is completely off, it still drains a 11ma if im correct (?).
What i did noticed, was every time i hook the - back again to the battery, i hear some minor mechanic noises (like pumping or rotating) coming from behind de air filter box. Not really sure if thats normal or something there is making a short?
I will Check where the exact drainage comes from in a few weeks tho.
When the bike is completely off, it still drains a 11ma if im correct (?).
What i did noticed, was every time i hook the - back again to the battery, i hear some minor mechanic noises (like pumping or rotating) coming from behind de air filter box. Not really sure if thats normal or something there is making a short?
I will Check where the exact drainage comes from in a few weeks tho.
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See that there is 14.4is dc volts on the battery when you rev the bike up to around 3k rpms.
Yes you can duplicate it by cycling the power with ignition.
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Ok so i did some parasitic drain testing first by disconnecting the - of the battery and hooked a meter between it.
When the bike is completely off, it still drains a 11ma if im correct (?).
What i did noticed, was every time i hook the - back again to the battery, i hear some minor mechanic noises (like pumping or rotating) coming from behind de air filter box. Not really sure if thats normal or something there is making a short?
I will Check where the exact drainage comes from in a few weeks tho.
When the bike is completely off, it still drains a 11ma if im correct (?).
What i did noticed, was every time i hook the - back again to the battery, i hear some minor mechanic noises (like pumping or rotating) coming from behind de air filter box. Not really sure if thats normal or something there is making a short?
I will Check where the exact drainage comes from in a few weeks tho.
Some bikes in certain geographic areas have extra pollution control stuff
If you continue to hear noise after shut-off for more than a few seconds there might be a concern.
At connecting power not so much a problem.
* Many aftermarket batteries require the use of brass color spacers at terminals if the wires are side mounted since the battery terminals are not flush with side of battery case.
Some riders forget to install with the spacers and then the contact is poor.
Poor contact leads to poor charge and poor starting.
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To state the obvious something is not right. I would check the charging system, and maybe even the tender. Maybe disconnect the battery after a ride, and see if it start in a few days.
See that there is 14.4is dc volts on the battery when you rev the bike up to around 3k rpms.
Yes you can duplicate it by cycling the power with ignition.
See that there is 14.4is dc volts on the battery when you rev the bike up to around 3k rpms.
Yes you can duplicate it by cycling the power with ignition.
I do believe now that there is some drainage which i will find out in few weeks. Im not very technical myself when it comes to electricity, so my dad will help me out with this.
Is your bike a Europe bike?
Some bikes in certain geographic areas have extra pollution control stuff
If you continue to hear noise after shut-off for more than a few seconds there might be a concern.
At connecting power not so much a problem.
* Many aftermarket batteries require the use of brass color spacers at terminals if the wires are side mounted since the battery terminals are not flush with side of battery case.
Some riders forget to install with the spacers and then the contact is poor.
Poor contact leads to poor charge and poor starting.
Some bikes in certain geographic areas have extra pollution control stuff
If you continue to hear noise after shut-off for more than a few seconds there might be a concern.
At connecting power not so much a problem.
* Many aftermarket batteries require the use of brass color spacers at terminals if the wires are side mounted since the battery terminals are not flush with side of battery case.
Some riders forget to install with the spacers and then the contact is poor.
Poor contact leads to poor charge and poor starting.
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* Many aftermarket batteries require the use of brass color spacers at terminals if the wires are side mounted since the battery terminals are not flush with side of battery case.
Some riders forget to install with the spacers and then the contact is poor.
Poor contact leads to poor charge and poor starting.
Some riders forget to install with the spacers and then the contact is poor.
Poor contact leads to poor charge and poor starting.
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I did tested that before by fully charging it, and left it off the charges for 3-4 days. The bike wouldn't start tho i havent started it after disconnecting. So it seems not related to the charging system.
I do believe now that there is some drainage which i will find out in few weeks. Im not very technical myself when it comes to electricity, so my dad will help me out with this.
Its a HD1 bike, but i live in The Netherlands.
I do believe now that there is some drainage which i will find out in few weeks. Im not very technical myself when it comes to electricity, so my dad will help me out with this.
Its a HD1 bike, but i live in The Netherlands.
Back to earlier comment about IAC motor noises, that is on start up, not when shutting down, that I have ever noticed. But as said maybe you got some other pollution control device.
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I put a Yuasa YTX 14L in the 2008 here and although it has lasted quite a bit longer than 1.5 years it never seemed to crank the bike with any gusto.
I put a Yuasa YTX 14L battery in my 2017 last year and it always hesitated on the starter before cranking.
I have since put OEM batteries in both bikes and now they crank fast, no hesitation and the engine fires up sooner.
The HD battery has just a bit more oomph and CCA than the Yuasa. The original I had in the 2017 for about 6 years before it started to lag.
There is a Yuasa GYZ16HL but here it is more than the HD battery.
I put a Yuasa YTX 14L battery in my 2017 last year and it always hesitated on the starter before cranking.
I have since put OEM batteries in both bikes and now they crank fast, no hesitation and the engine fires up sooner.
The HD battery has just a bit more oomph and CCA than the Yuasa. The original I had in the 2017 for about 6 years before it started to lag.
There is a Yuasa GYZ16HL but here it is more than the HD battery.
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If the battery is disconnected from the bike, reconnected, and doesn't start, it is a bad battery or was not charged.before parking.
Back to earlier comment about IAC motor noises, that is on start up, not when shutting down, that I have ever noticed. But as said maybe you got some other pollution control device.
Back to earlier comment about IAC motor noises, that is on start up, not when shutting down, that I have ever noticed. But as said maybe you got some other pollution control device.
I hear that noise only when i disconnect the battery and than connect the battery again. Its noticiable after connecting the battery