The lugging problem
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From: Great Falls, Va.
RE: The lugging problem
I think they don't know how to guage engine speed by ear...they don't know when engine comes into power band. \\;
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From: Colorado
RE: The lugging problem
Ok- I tried asking once before, but maybe in this thread it will work. With an 883, what are the proper speeds to be upshifting? Right now, when warmed up and not trying to be quiet in the morning, I shift:
1-2: 20 mph
2-3: 30 mph
3-4: 40 mph
4-5: 50 mph
 \\;\\\\\\;
I know I can get into it and shift at much faster speeds, but is this around appropriate shifting?
 \\;
Since I don't have a tach, what are the maximum speeds I want to be pushing in each gear?
1-2: 20 mph
2-3: 30 mph
3-4: 40 mph
4-5: 50 mph
 \\;\\\\\\;
I know I can get into it and shift at much faster speeds, but is this around appropriate shifting?
 \\;
Since I don't have a tach, what are the maximum speeds I want to be pushing in each gear?
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From: Vancouver B.C. Canada
RE: The lugging problem
+1, what does the speedo tell you when you are not getting enough power?
ORIGINAL: creekhed1
I NEVER use the Speedo as a reference for shifting. FEEL the engine...BE the Engine. Become part of the bike.
I NEVER use the Speedo as a reference for shifting. FEEL the engine...BE the Engine. Become part of the bike.
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From: Nomad
RE: The lugging problem
I think it is that new riders listen to the engine with the car driving ear and aren't used to revving higher into a motorcycle's powerband.
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RE: The lugging problem
ORIGINAL: fixedmlc
Ok- I tried asking once before, but maybe in this thread it will work. With an 883, what are the proper speeds to be upshifting? Right now, when warmed up and not trying to be quiet in the morning, I shift:
1-2: 20 mph
2-3: 30 mph
3-4: 40 mph
4-5: 50 mph
 \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;
I know I can get into it and shift at much faster speeds, but is this around appropriate shifting?
 \\;\\\\\\;
Since I don't have a tach, what are the maximum speeds I want to be pushing in each gear?
Ok- I tried asking once before, but maybe in this thread it will work. With an 883, what are the proper speeds to be upshifting? Right now, when warmed up and not trying to be quiet in the morning, I shift:
1-2: 20 mph
2-3: 30 mph
3-4: 40 mph
4-5: 50 mph
 \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;
I know I can get into it and shift at much faster speeds, but is this around appropriate shifting?
 \\;\\\\\\;
Since I don't have a tach, what are the maximum speeds I want to be pushing in each gear?
Yes, I \\;think that's \\;just fine. The \\;manual for my 1200R says 15/25/35/45. Now that's at the bottom of the speed \\;range. That corresponds to about 2000 rpm. As far as maximum speed, your bike most likely has a rev limiter (after 200x?) which will \\;cut out the ignition. So you \\; could run it to the limiter and see how fast that is.  \\; \\;
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From: Colorado
RE: The lugging problem
ORIGINAL: MacAttack
 \\;\\\\\\;
Yes, I \\;\\\\\\;think that's \\;\\\\\\;just fine. The \\;\\\\\\;manual for my 1200R says 15/25/35/45. Now that's at the bottom of the speed \\;\\\\\\;range. That corresponds to about 2000 rpm. As far as maximum speed, your bike most likely has a rev limiter (after 200x?) which will \\;\\\\\\;cut out the ignition. So you \\;\\\\\\; could run it to the limiter and see how fast that is.  \\;\\\\\\; \\;\\\\\\;
ORIGINAL: fixedmlc
Ok- I tried asking once before, but maybe in this thread it will work. With an 883, what are the proper speeds to be upshifting? Right now, when warmed up and not trying to be quiet in the morning, I shift:
1-2: 20 mph
2-3: 30 mph
3-4: 40 mph
4-5: 50 mph
 \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\\;
I know I can get into it and shift at much faster speeds, but is this around appropriate shifting?
 \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;
Since I don't have a tach, what are the maximum speeds I want to be pushing in each gear?
Ok- I tried asking once before, but maybe in this thread it will work. With an 883, what are the proper speeds to be upshifting? Right now, when warmed up and not trying to be quiet in the morning, I shift:
1-2: 20 mph
2-3: 30 mph
3-4: 40 mph
4-5: 50 mph
 \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\\;
I know I can get into it and shift at much faster speeds, but is this around appropriate shifting?
 \\;\\\\\\;\\\\\\\\\\\\\\;
Since I don't have a tach, what are the maximum speeds I want to be pushing in each gear?
Yes, I \\;\\\\\\;think that's \\;\\\\\\;just fine. The \\;\\\\\\;manual for my 1200R says 15/25/35/45. Now that's at the bottom of the speed \\;\\\\\\;range. That corresponds to about 2000 rpm. As far as maximum speed, your bike most likely has a rev limiter (after 200x?) which will \\;\\\\\\;cut out the ignition. So you \\;\\\\\\; could run it to the limiter and see how fast that is.  \\;\\\\\\; \\;\\\\\\;
I have a '93......