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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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A couple of months ago I fouled the plug in my front cylinder. Having twelve thousand miles on my bike, I thought it was time for new ones. I replaced them , and my bike ran like a rocket ship. Started better, ran better, everything was good. A couple of weeks later same thing. It started missing, running like crap. Checked the plugs, front plug out again. So this time I switched the plug wires to check the wires out. Got new plugs and a couple of weeks later, same thing. Front plug out again. So I know its not the plug wires. Checked the spark on both plugs, got fire. I checked the compression on both cylinders, front was 180 psi, back was 150 psi. It doesn't smoke, doesn't make any kind of strange rackett. It just blacks out the front plug. I cleaned the jets, checked the carb. All of thats good. All to no avail. Still running like crap. Does anyone know the correct compression? Anyone have any ideas?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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what year ?
what model ?
sounds like the petcock is bad (vac hose to carb) is sending more fuel than whats needed
this will cause a over rich mixture at the low end of RPM range
easy is to take hose off and put vac tester on petcock and see if any vac there
i forget off hand what it should read. 7-10 lb's
 
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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What rpm's do you run at? Sportsters will foul plugs if you like to lug the motor. Have you checked for leaks in the intake and exhaust?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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clean or replace your air filter. also the high compression might be causing detonation or something. run one tank of higher octane see what happens
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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need more info on what the fouled plug looks like.
wet? dry? carbon fouled? oil fouled? plug color? etc.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RATROD HOG
what year ?
what model ?
sounds like the petcock is bad (vac hose to carb) is sending more fuel than whats needed
this will cause a over rich mixture at the low end of RPM range
easy is to take hose off and put vac tester on petcock and see if any vac there
i forget off hand what it should read. 7-10 lb's
Sorry, but the petcock has nothing to do with excess fuel to the cylinders as it only controls the availability of fuel flow to the float bowl. The float and float needle meter fuel from the tank into the float bowl. Many people replace the vacuum controlled petcock with non controlled high flow unit (Pringle). Generally speaking, the only problem a petcock can cause is a lack of fuel.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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I'd like to know why there is 17% difference between the front and rear cylinders on the comp test. Was this a dry or wet test? Was the throttle wide open when the test was done? What does the plug that is fouling look like and please don't say like crap. What kind of spark plugs are being used? What's the gap on those plugs?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Razorback Rob
...Does anyone know the correct compression?
Compression is equal to 14.7 PSI (ambient) x compression ratio.

10:1 pistons shoud read about 147 PSI. For a reading of 180 you would need 12:1 pistons.



+1 what cHarley wrote
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cHarley
Sorry, but the petcock has nothing to do with excess fuel to the cylinders as it only controls the availability of fuel flow to the float bowl. The float and float needle meter fuel from the tank into the float bowl. Many people replace the vacuum controlled petcock with non controlled high flow unit (Pringle). Generally speaking, the only problem a petcock can cause is a lack of fuel.
it dumps that raw fuel into the intake,which in turns richens the mixture !!

already went thru this on my bike


sorry cHarley
 

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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RATROD HOG
it dumps that raw fuel into the intake,which in turns richens the mixture !!

already went thru this on my bike


sorry cHarley
Sorry again but not true. Flooding of the carb intake with fuel as you described, can only happen if you have a stuck carb float which leaves the float needle unseated. In your case, the petcock was not the primary cause of the leak. The leak was caused by a stuck float. The vacuum control feature on the petcock is designed to prevent leaks in the event a stuck float situation occurs. Yes, your petcock failed as a safety device, which is what it's purpose is in this case, but if the float had not been hung open, no leak or flooding would have occurred. There is absolutely no requirement to even have a petcock installed between the fuel tank and the carb.

I really don't mean to be rude, but you obviously have no clue how a carb works and misinformation is worse than no information.
 

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