Help.. Short shots causing rough cold stop
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Help.. Short shots causing rough cold stop
Hello everyone,
This is Catlkn's boyfriend and i am signed on her account to ask a quick Nightster\V&H question. We are working on her bike (1200n). We put the short shots on with the fuel pack. The factory numbers seem to give a really rough cold start on the bike. Decel pops, back firing, etc. Once the bike warms up from riding a short bit it runs as smooth as it can. So we email V&H explaining the issue. We get an email back saying this is normal. Personal this doesn't seem normal at all. We rephrased the question in another way and resubmitted an email request but just wanted to find out how many other people have seen this issue as well.
Thanks for any information you can provide, even if it's just a "Hey... happened to me to!"
- Brettcr
This is Catlkn's boyfriend and i am signed on her account to ask a quick Nightster\V&H question. We are working on her bike (1200n). We put the short shots on with the fuel pack. The factory numbers seem to give a really rough cold start on the bike. Decel pops, back firing, etc. Once the bike warms up from riding a short bit it runs as smooth as it can. So we email V&H explaining the issue. We get an email back saying this is normal. Personal this doesn't seem normal at all. We rephrased the question in another way and resubmitted an email request but just wanted to find out how many other people have seen this issue as well.
Thanks for any information you can provide, even if it's just a "Hey... happened to me to!"
- Brettcr
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I have read about this happening a lot with the Fuel Pack and V&H usually helped the people out with setting it up. From what I have read, there is a selection you enter a value into that usually helps the problem, if you search for it you might be able to dig it up. I run the PC III because of the user adjustability/flexibility and if I had to do it all over again, I would pony up and get the SERT or PC V.
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Update: Just for quick print...
Here is the run down...
Mode 1 = 4
Mode 2 = 5
Mode 3 = 3
Mode 4 = 2
Mode 5 = 22
Mode 6 = 22
Mode 7 = 25
Mode 8 = 20
Mode 9 = 20
Mode 10 = 2
Mode 11 = 5
Mode 12 = 3
Mode 13 = 15
Mode 14 = -5
Mode 15 = 3
Mode 16 = 6
Mode 17 = 0
Mode 18 = 33
Mode 23 = 22
Mode 24 = 0
Mode 25 = -10
Mode 26 = 1
Mode 27 = -3
Mode 28 = 12
Mode 29 = 20
Mode 30 = 27
Mode 31 = 32
Mode 32 = 42
Mode 33 = 55
Mode 34 = N/A
Mode 35 = N/A
Her config is:
Model Exhaust Model Exh P/N Year ci/cc ECM Baffle Air Filter Value Reference
SPORTSTER 1200 | SHORTSHOTS STAGGERED | 17219 | 2008 | 1200 | STOCK | QUIET | HIGH FLOW | FP-0682
The map states it should be FP-0682 with those settings. For those that have seen the same issue and gotten a new set of numbers returned for the Fuel Pack please let me know. Right now they are saying that the cold "Start" (sorry about the title) issue should be expected and not sure i agree with that!
Saw this post:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/sport...roblems-2.html
But this states they were using FP-0681 which isn't the map that is given to me when the numbers are put in i get FP-0682.
Thanks again for any help!
-Brett
Here is the run down...
Mode 1 = 4
Mode 2 = 5
Mode 3 = 3
Mode 4 = 2
Mode 5 = 22
Mode 6 = 22
Mode 7 = 25
Mode 8 = 20
Mode 9 = 20
Mode 10 = 2
Mode 11 = 5
Mode 12 = 3
Mode 13 = 15
Mode 14 = -5
Mode 15 = 3
Mode 16 = 6
Mode 17 = 0
Mode 18 = 33
Mode 23 = 22
Mode 24 = 0
Mode 25 = -10
Mode 26 = 1
Mode 27 = -3
Mode 28 = 12
Mode 29 = 20
Mode 30 = 27
Mode 31 = 32
Mode 32 = 42
Mode 33 = 55
Mode 34 = N/A
Mode 35 = N/A
Her config is:
Model Exhaust Model Exh P/N Year ci/cc ECM Baffle Air Filter Value Reference
SPORTSTER 1200 | SHORTSHOTS STAGGERED | 17219 | 2008 | 1200 | STOCK | QUIET | HIGH FLOW | FP-0682
The map states it should be FP-0682 with those settings. For those that have seen the same issue and gotten a new set of numbers returned for the Fuel Pack please let me know. Right now they are saying that the cold "Start" (sorry about the title) issue should be expected and not sure i agree with that!
Saw this post:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/sport...roblems-2.html
But this states they were using FP-0681 which isn't the map that is given to me when the numbers are put in i get FP-0682.
Thanks again for any help!
-Brett
Last edited by catlkn; Feb 27, 2009 at 03:19 PM.
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You saying take them out? Right now we have them in. Prefer the deeper sound. Still waiting to hear back from V&H. Of course when they say 24 turn around the mean 23.5 hours exactly before you will get an email back fom us!
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I missed the "in".lol If you're already running them leave them in. You obviously know what I mean when I said I like the sound with the quite baffles. Hopefully V&H takes care of y'all.
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Are you running the baffles that came with the pipes or the "quiet" baffles? The quiet baffles are bought seperately and give more back pressure.
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if ur talking about when u first start the bike cold, and it seems to choke out while warming up, ive had that same problem, i called fuel moto the guys that sold me the PCIII, i talked to keith he was telling me to dbl check the throttle pos. with the bike running and at idle, make sure that its at 0%, mine was so that didnt help, then i also had alot of decel pop at all times, he gave me a new map setup and that fixed it at all rpms, much better but i still run into the cold start choke intermittenly(sp) but ive learned to deal with it cause no one seems to kno how to fix it from who i have called around at least.....
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