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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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heres the thing: the engine is stock. i knew i'd be putting a lot of miles on the bike and didn't want to make any changes in case of a warranty issue. i figure they designed it to run a certain way and messing with the design is asking for trouble. plus, if the moco has a design-fault, they'll catch it. or, if the bike is a statistical fatality because of stringent epa regulations, they'll document these cases and use them to combat stupid regulation.... i hope.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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any word from your dealership or wherever ya took it?

i'm very interested because i have an 04 1200c with almost the same miles and have noticed some white smoke outta the front exhaust pipe on decel and down shift...haven't had time to do a compression test yet (i just make sure there is oil in her and keep riddin) but she is most deffinetly burnin oil

i hope its just valve seals but i'm not holdin my breath
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by old skool1983
any word from your dealership or wherever ya took it?

i'm very interested because i have an 04 1200c with almost the same miles and have noticed some white smoke outta the front exhaust pipe on decel and down shift...haven't had time to do a compression test yet (i just make sure there is oil in her and keep riddin) but she is most deffinetly burnin oil

i hope its just valve seals but i'm not holdin my breath
That's the classic symptom of the well known 04 & 05 defective valve seal problem.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Yep, when my Harley mechanic friend swapped in the Screamin' Eagle "E" cams on my 2005 1200C he also changed out the valve seals.

He said that in my case they appeared to be fine, but he wanted to replace them before any problem might develop.....


 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cHarley
That's the classic symptom of the well known 04 & 05 defective valve seal problem.
i know...i had them replaced about 20-30k ago...so i'm worried unless they burnt up agian (which seems odd for 30k i think) it rings
 
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Certainteed
Front cyl is lowest at 170 dry / 240 wet. Rear is 185 dry / 250 wet. I know this has nothing to do with vibration or bearings, but I got the ******* now so I'm in paranoid-test-mode.
The 2 cylinders are within 10% of each other and that is still good compression, you should maybe stop micro managing your bike.
Your vibration is probably a motor mount or some other miner thing.
If I was a mechanic in a shop I'd be smiling everytime I had someone walk in with a self diagnosis.
 

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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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the moco's testing methodology is just a wee tad different than yours. but hey, i hope the bike is fine cause i need both bikes to be road worthy next weekend.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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hey what kinda sporty ya got? (year/model) do you have engine work done?

i checked my book today for my 04 1200c and it said the psi on the compression test should rread 120...your first post said double that....whats the deal?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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its an 08 nightster. says the compression should be between 200 and 225 psi dry. no engine mods. i'm too lazy to scan the page and post it. someone else might open their manual and confirm. page 3.11

it says the difference should not be more than 10 psi between cylinders.

it says lower than 150 is a problem. it also says there should be no significant change in compression when oil is added.

i'll accept that the rings are not completely shot. however, the big jump in wet compression seems excessive for an engine with so few miles. sorry if i offend anyones sensitivities but 42k is nothing.
 
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Originally Posted by old skool1983
hey what kinda sporty ya got? (year/model) do you have engine work done?

i checked my book today for my 04 1200c and it said the psi on the compression test should rread 120...your first post said double that....whats the deal?
Oldschool, my 04 HD Service Manual like yours, apparently omits the Table that lists the compression numbers for both the 883 & 1200, instead, just listing the numbers for the 883. My 05 manual lists the following:

883cc - 125-140 psi
1200cc- 200-225 psi
 
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