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Anyone done the install recently that can answer a few Q's? I picked up a used set of the genie HD's, for my son's 883R on eBay. I had to disassemble them and get them painted Vivid Black. Unfortunately, they didn't have all the install hardware. Or should I say all the 'correct' install hardware. So.... I ordered the kit from HD, I've downloaded and read the install instructions, but I'm having a few problems determining what and how many washers go where.
Any details and or help would be appreciated.
Any details and or help would be appreciated.
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[quote=Hackd;5993537]Anyone done the install recently that can answer a few Q's? I picked up a used set of the genie HD's, for my son's 883R on eBay. I had to disassemble them and get them painted Vivid Black. Unfortunately, they didn't have all the install hardware. Or should I say all the 'correct' install hardware. So.... I ordered the kit from HD, I've downloaded and read the install instructions, but I'm having a few problems determining what and how many washers go where.
Any details and or help would be appreciated.[/quoteHD.
I've got them on my bike and like you I bought used and bought the same bag of hardware from HD. I also found the instructions to be a little vague. Let me know what you are having trouble with and I will help you any way I can
Any details and or help would be appreciated.[/quoteHD.
I've got them on my bike and like you I bought used and bought the same bag of hardware from HD. I also found the instructions to be a little vague. Let me know what you are having trouble with and I will help you any way I can
Last edited by Blackcherry Low; Dec 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM.
LOVE the jeep man! i put some bags on my dyna and went with these brackets, they are quick release.. have to say! i have done a ton of installs on brackets and these are by far, light years nicer than any i have used in the past
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well worth the hundred and some odd i paid for them
http://www.edgeleather.com/Table/Har...yna/index.html
well worth the hundred and some odd i paid for them
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The kit includes ten washers. However that doesn't seem to add up when you look at all the spots where the instructions say to put them. On the mounting point where the long bolt goes through the fender and into the bag, the figure says 'washer' (3). That would use six of the ten washers. And I'm assuming this means that all three of them go between the framework and the rubber bushing, as that's not stipulated. Then there is the whole placement of the various 'spacers' (other than the hex piece-which is a no brainer).
It would've been nice if The MoCo had included another exploded view drawing with the mounting hardware in the correct orientation.
Oh, and nice Sportybagger!
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Figure 10, page 4 lists item 2 as:
Washer (3) (6254)
Since 6254 is the HD part number, and there is no other reference to a '3' with regards to a washer, I'm assuming it means the number of washers to use on any spot in that figure marked with a '2'. There are two separate locations that item 2-Washer (3) (6254) is used making a total of twelve for the two bags.
Figure 11 shows that (2) 6254 washers are used (item 3). Making a grand total of sixteen used, when the kit only includes ten.
Also, there is no indication as to how many (inside or outside) they are placed.
Washer (3) (6254)
Since 6254 is the HD part number, and there is no other reference to a '3' with regards to a washer, I'm assuming it means the number of washers to use on any spot in that figure marked with a '2'. There are two separate locations that item 2-Washer (3) (6254) is used making a total of twelve for the two bags.
Figure 11 shows that (2) 6254 washers are used (item 3). Making a grand total of sixteen used, when the kit only includes ten.
Also, there is no indication as to how many (inside or outside) they are placed.
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I used four of those washers on the inside of the bag for mounting the frame and turn signal bracket. Honestly the instructions are so vague that it's a guess and by golly sort of thing. It took me several attempts before I was sure I had things proper. Looking at mine, it appears as though I had to conjer up some hardware of my own too. They should have given about 14 or 16 of those washers in my opinion. I think they don't washer in places where I would.
One thing that really pissed me off was I missed the step about installing the spacer inside the fender strut cover (step 4, page 11). I started tightening things down and I squashed the fender strut cover. This is the really thick washer that is included, 2 each(item 5 on page 8). When I realized the problem I had to disassemble, fix the strut cover, super glue the spacers inside the strut cover and reassemble. This is where your old turn signal mount would be.
I also didn't put the aft fender bolt in from the inside, I put the bolt head inside the bag and nut inside fender. Works just fine.
Let me know if this helps or if I can help with anything else. I'm a mechanic by trade and I don't have much trouble with these kinds of things. I have lots of spare hardware and tools at home so the poor instructions only slowed me down a little. I can see if someone who is not used to wrenching started this, they'd have a hell of a time with it. And I'm not referring to you with that statement.
One side note, I do have a removeable backrest on mine so it requires another $40.00 spacer kit from HD.
One thing that really pissed me off was I missed the step about installing the spacer inside the fender strut cover (step 4, page 11). I started tightening things down and I squashed the fender strut cover. This is the really thick washer that is included, 2 each(item 5 on page 8). When I realized the problem I had to disassemble, fix the strut cover, super glue the spacers inside the strut cover and reassemble. This is where your old turn signal mount would be.
I also didn't put the aft fender bolt in from the inside, I put the bolt head inside the bag and nut inside fender. Works just fine.
Let me know if this helps or if I can help with anything else. I'm a mechanic by trade and I don't have much trouble with these kinds of things. I have lots of spare hardware and tools at home so the poor instructions only slowed me down a little. I can see if someone who is not used to wrenching started this, they'd have a hell of a time with it. And I'm not referring to you with that statement.
One side note, I do have a removeable backrest on mine so it requires another $40.00 spacer kit from HD.
Last edited by Blackcherry Low; Dec 23, 2009 at 07:07 PM.