I HATE Torx Bolts!!!!!!!!!!!
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,718
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From: manhattan beach
to the op-
i have always thought about posting this same subject...
my fav mod vehicle for many years was an '86 cj- and then on to bikes.
have to own so many tools just to do a simple job its crazy!
and i too have had the experience of stripping out and having to find a drill solution. way too much time spent going and getting new tools-
i feel your pain...
i have always thought about posting this same subject...
my fav mod vehicle for many years was an '86 cj- and then on to bikes.
have to own so many tools just to do a simple job its crazy!
and i too have had the experience of stripping out and having to find a drill solution. way too much time spent going and getting new tools-
i feel your pain...
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
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I had a part time job in the shop of a Honda / Yamaha dealer two years ago. These crazy kids with their bullet bikes would have us remove their wheels to have them chromed or powder coated, so we had to remove the wheels and strip them down bare. All of those rotors were bolted to the wheels with torx head bolts which were Loctited. The area of the wheel that the bolt screwed into HAD to be heated to soften the Loctite...otherwise either the torx socket would break or the torx head would strip.
I don't think that would have happened if there had not been Loctite involved, but there was, and the heat was absolutely necessary.
Torx bolts look nice, but often the diameter of the torx socket is smaller than the diameter of the threaded portion of the bolt.
I don't think that would have happened if there had not been Loctite involved, but there was, and the heat was absolutely necessary.
Torx bolts look nice, but often the diameter of the torx socket is smaller than the diameter of the threaded portion of the bolt.
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2010
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I hate to tell you guys this buy Craftsman tools suck. I have been wrenching for years and do have many craftsman tools only because I do not have money for something better. They are ok for home wrenching to change a starter or alternator, but try a socket and ratchet from snap on one time and you will see a very big difference.... ps I refuse to even use my (many) craftsman ratchets.
I have no issue with them. I do not remove 10 to 20 alternators per week. So I am not paying the money for Snap-On at this time. Also, I don't think I mentioned Craftsman one time. I hate to tell you that I hate others telling me my stuff sucks. Your stuff sucks. If you hated telling us, why did you tell us? You sound like you drive a Snap-On truck for a living.
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Road Warrior
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From: south Texas
They're even MORE fun on a 30yr old, rusty, Jeep...
Try THIS helpful trick next time:
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Try THIS helpful trick next time:
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...p/P6060305.jpg
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Oregon Coast
Here's a little secret for drilling out bolts. Use a drill bit with a left twist. Us a bit that is the same size as the shaft of the bolt and sometimes you get lucky and the bolt gets caught and comes right out.
I buy left twist bits one or two at a time as I need them and keep them seperate from my other tools so that if I lose them, it's my fault that I cannot remember where I hid them.
I buy left twist bits one or two at a time as I need them and keep them seperate from my other tools so that if I lose them, it's my fault that I cannot remember where I hid them.
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Orkney (North of Scotland)
For torx or allen key bolts I have found the main thing is good tools - snap on or similar, expensive - yes but it can make the job much easier. (I don't drive a snap on van but the driver grins from ear to ear every time he sees me)
Seasoned HDF Member
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From: Honah Lee
Torx
My 04 Softail has regular torx bolts and does not use torx plus wrenches. I think some times people get confused and do not realize that a screw in good shape and a new tool can be quite tight going into the torx head.. Its easy to wrongly use the next smaller wrench in a torx screw if you are not careful or do not have a complete set of tools.
A Torx variant, Torx Plus, introduced about 1990 when the original Torx patent was expiring, is designed to allow greater torque, and to minimize wear. Currently, Torx Plus heads and drivers are patented, slowing adoption in the marketplace, but are licensed to a number of tool manufacturers [1] including Camcar [2] and Facom [3]. The specifications for these licenses are held by Textron. Standard Torx drivers can be used to drive Torx Plus screws, but not to full torque because of the loose fit. Torx Plus drivers will not fit standard Torx screws. They are shortened to "Torx TS".
A Torx variant, Torx Plus, introduced about 1990 when the original Torx patent was expiring, is designed to allow greater torque, and to minimize wear. Currently, Torx Plus heads and drivers are patented, slowing adoption in the marketplace, but are licensed to a number of tool manufacturers [1] including Camcar [2] and Facom [3]. The specifications for these licenses are held by Textron. Standard Torx drivers can be used to drive Torx Plus screws, but not to full torque because of the loose fit. Torx Plus drivers will not fit standard Torx screws. They are shortened to "Torx TS".
Last edited by Jackie Paper; Sep 14, 2018 at 10:26 AM.
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Raleigh, N. Carolina (Via Brighton, England)
Help me out here please....
Is there ANY other advantage to using Torx (+) over Allen? Lets pretend I have a set of Snap On tools and always use the right size bits--why do HD use Torx and Allen? Why not stay with one system.
As far as austhetics, I think stainless Allens look just as good, if not better, than Torx.
I am itching to replace every Torx bolt on my bike for stainless Allens, but just wondering if there's a good reason not to. OR if Torx are so much better, why not eliminate all Allens and go 100% Torx?
Thanks!
Is there ANY other advantage to using Torx (+) over Allen? Lets pretend I have a set of Snap On tools and always use the right size bits--why do HD use Torx and Allen? Why not stay with one system.
As far as austhetics, I think stainless Allens look just as good, if not better, than Torx.
I am itching to replace every Torx bolt on my bike for stainless Allens, but just wondering if there's a good reason not to. OR if Torx are so much better, why not eliminate all Allens and go 100% Torx?
Thanks!
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