Cagers?????
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That's the thing here. All these people saying "They only do this or that in order to be more 'biker'." How the hell do you know why someone does it? That would be like the sportbike rider that says that the only reason you ride a Harley is to come across as a "bad a$$ biker."
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I use the term bikers because its easier to type and I prefer the colloquial to the standard term. If it would make all parties happy, I'll refer to bikers as "motorcycle operators" instead. Sorry, but I thought this thread was about the issues between automobile operators and motorcycle operators while on public roadways. What I meant to convey is that safety is a universal responsibility that we all have to endorse.
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No, they don't have anything to prove, but if by using that kind of lingo appeals to the people reading it making them sell more magazines, they'll write anything you want to hear. Just buy it, consumer.
Bullshit. The difference is that "Panhead", "Softail" etc. are recognizable alternate names of actual items, not just terms used in a derogatory sense to illustrate a social criticism.
So if you said the word car to another biker he'd have no idea what you meant unless you said "cager"? I believe he'd get the gist of what you meant if you said car.
First of all, it's glaringly obvious it's a 3/4 helmet, not a half helmet. I have nothing to prove, I wear a helmet I like because I like it. I get **** about it all the time and I couldn't care less. And second, you can't make some point about judgment and turn around to do the same. It nullifies the argument.
I'm not saying you can't use the term, enjoy yourself. And I have nothing against you personally, but you wanted to take up the flag and run with it. I just don't use it myself and I would get the douchechills if I ever used it in a conversation in a non-air quotes way. And yeah, I tend to wince when I hear someone else use it and you know they're only trying to use it to sound cool.
I shared my opinion, sorry if you don't agree or like it. That's the point and purpose of an open forum. And it's not a "free speech" issue because this is a privately owned message board and the admin can control it as they see fit.
But I stand by what I said. That's why I use my real name on boards and not a screen name and put my face in my avatar. Makes it much easier to recognize me in public should you want to discuss something in person.
Or slug me, whichever comes first.
Bullshit. The difference is that "Panhead", "Softail" etc. are recognizable alternate names of actual items, not just terms used in a derogatory sense to illustrate a social criticism.
So if you said the word car to another biker he'd have no idea what you meant unless you said "cager"? I believe he'd get the gist of what you meant if you said car.
First of all, it's glaringly obvious it's a 3/4 helmet, not a half helmet. I have nothing to prove, I wear a helmet I like because I like it. I get **** about it all the time and I couldn't care less. And second, you can't make some point about judgment and turn around to do the same. It nullifies the argument.
I'm not saying you can't use the term, enjoy yourself. And I have nothing against you personally, but you wanted to take up the flag and run with it. I just don't use it myself and I would get the douchechills if I ever used it in a conversation in a non-air quotes way. And yeah, I tend to wince when I hear someone else use it and you know they're only trying to use it to sound cool.
I shared my opinion, sorry if you don't agree or like it. That's the point and purpose of an open forum. And it's not a "free speech" issue because this is a privately owned message board and the admin can control it as they see fit.
But I stand by what I said. That's why I use my real name on boards and not a screen name and put my face in my avatar. Makes it much easier to recognize me in public should you want to discuss something in person.
Or slug me, whichever comes first.
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No, now it's a discussion on how certain terms that were coined by motorcycle riders (PC enough?) are only used by "posers" and "wanabes" in order to seem more "biker." Oh, and apparently it also includes clothing. So, now, in order to not be a "poser" we must wear jeans, t-shirts (excluding anything HD related), tennis shoes, aviators, etc. Pretty much anything that is made of leather, or designed for safety and comfort on a motorcycle is off limits or your trying to be "biker".
I know, in order to prove that I'm not trying to be a "bad a$$ biker" I'll wear a three-piece suit and ride a Vespa.
I know, in order to prove that I'm not trying to be a "bad a$$ biker" I'll wear a three-piece suit and ride a Vespa.
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It's the same in any specialized area. There are terms used in the computer tech. field that they consider normal but would be Greek to those not in the field. Same with the medical community, the psychology community, and even the collector car community.
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Again, how do you know they are only trying to sound "cool"? Maybe you're just making an assumption. And you know what they say about making an assumption?
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Well, then you'd just be a Mod and have to look out for the Teddyboys.
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