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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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So i'm painting some of my tins. Practicing on smaller stuff before I tear into the tank. Im having trouble with these tiny spots on the clear coat. I've wet sanded with 1200 forever it seems going through countless sheets of paper...then I polished with 3M rubbing compound. Polished it up real nice and shiny...but in indirect light there are these little f*cking spots!!! they look like real tiny water spots...but like tiny...taking a pic would be a waste cuz you wouldnt be able to see them unless you are looking at the piece.. I sanded down the battery cover with 800 just to scuff up the clear and there are no spots but now i have to re-clear.

Am I doing something during the clear process that I shouldnt be? How can I avoid this?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Search the painting term - fish eye.
Possible silicon/ wax in your paint area?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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No its not fisheye..it looks more like pitting on Chrome but smaller.

Thanks for the term tho I Google it and learned something new!
 
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Wet sanding with 1200grit to remove blemishes is sort of like wiping your butt with wax paper. You need something with a little more bite. Try 400 grit or 600 grit wet and apply very little pressure. Also be sure to use a thin rubber block. If you feel like you are gonna sand through, stop. After they are gone, bump the sand paper up and up until you get to at least 2000 grit, changing sand patterns as you go up in numbers. Then polish with a good rubbing compound, final compound, and final glaze. I use 3M's Finesse-It and Perfect-It III, works great!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeMustangPerf
Wet sanding with 1200grit to remove blemishes is sort of like wiping your butt with wax paper. You need something with a little more bite. Try 400 grit or 600 grit wet and apply very little pressure. Also be sure to use a thin rubber block. If you feel like you are gonna sand through, stop. After they are gone, bump the sand paper up and up until you get to at least 2000 grit, changing sand patterns as you go up in numbers. Then polish with a good rubbing compound, final compound, and final glaze. I use 3M's Finesse-It and Perfect-It III, works great!
If I use 400 on the clear wont it strip all of it off?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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Nope, just be gentle. I start with 400G wet to remove factory orange peel when wet sanding and polishing. Just be real careful.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Hard to say without seeing pictures, but I believe you have what is commonly called "SOLVENT POP". This occurs when drying time is reduced and solvents can't evaporate - they kind of "explode".

It looks like microscopic air bubbles in clearcoat. You may be laying the clear on too thick - that's usually what causes them. Keep your distance to workpiece farther apart - who cares about orange peel if you sand and buff, right? Wetsand with 1200 to start then go to 2000 and buff.

Solvent pop happens all the time in runs as well.

Also, make sure the activator you're using is good for the right temperature in your garage. If it's a 80-90 degree activator and it's 55-60 degrees out, that's a problem.

OH!!! AND TACK RAG YOUR BASECOAT BEFORE CLEARCOATING!!!!!!!
 

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Originally Posted by streetfighter06
Hard to say without seeing pictures, but I believe you have what is commonly called "SOLVENT POP". This occurs when drying time is reduced and solvents can't evaporate - they kind of "explode".

It looks like microscopic air bubbles in clearcoat. You may be laying the clear on too thick - that's usually what causes them. Keep your distance to workpiece farther apart - who cares about orange peel if you sand and buff, right? Wetsand with 1200 to start then go to 2000 and buff.

Solvent pop happens all the time in runs as well.

Also, make sure the activator you're using is good for the right temperature in your garage. If it's a 80-90 degree activator and it's 55-60 degrees out, that's a problem.

OH!!! AND TACK RAG YOUR BASECOAT BEFORE CLEARCOATING!!!!!!!
That's exactly what I think is happening. Gracias!
Im totally new at this...what's tack ragging?
 
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That's exactly what I think is happening. Gracias!
Im totally new at this...what's tack ragging?
Tag rags are like cheesecloth that has a sticky adhesive. They will feel waxy but will not leave a residue. Use them to wipe the tank down just before you repaint or reclear to remove all of the debris.
 
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kool. Thanks!
 
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