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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by thegrants82
I highly doubt that the stage one downloads only purpose is to raise the rev limiter. Should do a little research before posting mis information.
Try again. Perhaps you should do a little research before attempting to discredit someone.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by knightenforcer
Dont believe everything the dealer tells you. My nightster is my 5th Harley. I've had experienced with the old race tuner and the new super tuner as well as PCV and other tuners. The download is also to update the A/F ratio on your ecm to compensate for the hiflow and slip ons (or mild mods). it's a little on the lean side compared to let say an aftermarket or super tuner. You are limited to the flash tho. Not like a tuner where you can program and tune.
Of course the HD download compensates for the Hi flow equipment BUT
Harley cannot deviate from the EPA compliant 14.7 AFR.

If they did two things would happen,,,
1. The EPA would fine the hell out of them
2. Harleys would run alot better

More air In and out of your Air pump (Thats all an engine is), means more power
and needs more fuel but If the ratio remains the same
you still have a bike with a less than smooth performance set up.

AFR's of 13.5 thru 14.0 do so much, smoother Idle and low speed response,
Better engine temps at the Rpms where we all ride most often,
Can drop head temps 70 degree's or more.
Zero, none, nada power fluctuations when It's most critical,,,
Like when yer wringing It out down low in a corner..
 

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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tekdiver500ft
Try again. Perhaps you should do a little research before attempting to discredit someone.
Like I said......."I highly doubt that the stage one downloads only purpose is to raise the rev limiter". And once again you are totally wrong.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by thegrants82
Like I said......."I highly doubt that the stage one downloads only purpose is to raise the rev limiter". And once again you are totally wrong.
Fine. You win. Must be nice to already know everything.

Great, you go right ahead and keep spreading your messages of hate, stupidity, and ignorance. I'll let your stupid *** be.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Stage 1 download is a waste of money. It's still bound to EPA requirements. If you like to cruise and don't care about performance but don't want high temps from a lean AFR get the ieds.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Osco
Of course the HD download compensates for the Hi flow equipment BUT
Harley cannot deviate from the EPA compliant 14.7 AFR.

If they did two things would happen,,,
1. The EPA would fine the hell out of them
2. Harleys would run alot better

More air In and out of your Air pump (Thats all an engine is), means more power
and needs more fuel but If the ratio remains the same
you still have a bike with a less than smooth performance set up.

AFR's of 13.5 thru 14.0 do so much, smoother Idle and low speed response,
Better engine temps at the Rpms where we all ride most often,
Can drop head temps 70 degree's or more.
Zero, none, nada power fluctuations when It's most critical,,,
Like when yer wringing It out down low in a corner..
This sounds reasonable. Thanks for your input on this.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tekdiver500ft
Fine. You win. Must be nice to already know everything.

Great, you go right ahead and keep spreading your messages of hate, stupidity, and ignorance. I'll let your stupid *** be.
LOL
 
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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What Osco said pretty much sums it up.
 

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