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What should I do?
Hi all,
I have scoured the forums and have found lots of info but its all scattered and hard to decipher so I am asking in this new thread:
I am about to install my replacement slip-ons and headers from Rush in October and want to know what the best way to avoid running lean is? As far as I can read I have two options:
1. Stage 1 with new heavy breather and remap
2. Remap using one of these http://www.nightrider.com/parts/
As far as I know with slip-ons I don't need to do a stage 1 but I run very hot so want to make sure I do whats best.
Any advice?
I have scoured the forums and have found lots of info but its all scattered and hard to decipher so I am asking in this new thread:
I am about to install my replacement slip-ons and headers from Rush in October and want to know what the best way to avoid running lean is? As far as I can read I have two options:
1. Stage 1 with new heavy breather and remap
2. Remap using one of these http://www.nightrider.com/parts/
As far as I know with slip-ons I don't need to do a stage 1 but I run very hot so want to make sure I do whats best.
Any advice?
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IMHO the 'best' way is not to do nothing! The electronics on your bike will adjust for changes in temperature wherever you go, also riding over the Rockies and at sea level. That same adaptability will enable them to cope with small changes to the bike, but it will still run on EPA lean burn, so risk running hot. There comes a point when changes to the bike cannot be automatically compensated for by your bike's electronics.
You mention a stage 1. That will normally include a change of airbox, eg to SE, plus an exhaust such as your Rush, but will include optimising the air/fuel ratios. This will greatly improve the way your bike runs and minimise heating problems. There are various ways of doing that, you are better off consulting a local indy or dealer and going with them. The more replies you get on here, the more options you will discover! Go with the one your chosen tuner recommends.
You mention a stage 1. That will normally include a change of airbox, eg to SE, plus an exhaust such as your Rush, but will include optimising the air/fuel ratios. This will greatly improve the way your bike runs and minimise heating problems. There are various ways of doing that, you are better off consulting a local indy or dealer and going with them. The more replies you get on here, the more options you will discover! Go with the one your chosen tuner recommends.
Hi all,
I have scoured the forums and have found lots of info but its all scattered and hard to decipher so I am asking in this new thread:
I am about to install my replacement slip-ons and headers from Rush in October and want to know what the best way to avoid running lean is? As far as I can read I have two options:
1. Stage 1 with new heavy breather and remap
2. Remap using one of these http://www.nightrider.com/parts/
As far as I know with slip-ons I don't need to do a stage 1 but I run very hot so want to make sure I do whats best.
Any advice?
I have scoured the forums and have found lots of info but its all scattered and hard to decipher so I am asking in this new thread:
I am about to install my replacement slip-ons and headers from Rush in October and want to know what the best way to avoid running lean is? As far as I can read I have two options:
1. Stage 1 with new heavy breather and remap
2. Remap using one of these http://www.nightrider.com/parts/
As far as I know with slip-ons I don't need to do a stage 1 but I run very hot so want to make sure I do whats best.
Any advice?
I also installed the X14IED's and have been very happy with the set-up for over 10k miles.
The IED's do NOT remap, they simply fool the ecm to run a little richer on the stock closed loop portion of the map.
I am not sure how the IED's would perform if the headers were changed out also. My guess is that you would be fine as long as you kept the stock air filter.
Of course you are still choking the bike out on the intake side, even though you are opening up the exhaust side.
I think the IED's have a 30 day money back, so you can try em, and then if you find you need/want a tuner you can go that way.
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Thanks for the input guys.
I have been trying to find the answer to a question that seems simple:
Whats the difference between the XiED, ViED and X14iED. I understand that they have a different mixture but which one is best for my 2010 Iron? I do not want to have to play around too much - just plug and play. My main concern that it gets very hot in Dubai, and never really gets below 50 degrees (10 degrees Celsius) so I want to make sure my slips-ons don't get too hot.
Appreciate the help...
I have been trying to find the answer to a question that seems simple:
Whats the difference between the XiED, ViED and X14iED. I understand that they have a different mixture but which one is best for my 2010 Iron? I do not want to have to play around too much - just plug and play. My main concern that it gets very hot in Dubai, and never really gets below 50 degrees (10 degrees Celsius) so I want to make sure my slips-ons don't get too hot.
Appreciate the help...
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Thanks for the input guys.
I have been trying to find the answer to a question that seems simple:
Whats the difference between the XiED, ViED and X14iED. I understand that they have a different mixture but which one is best for my 2010 Iron? I do not want to have to play around too much - just plug and play. My main concern that it gets very hot in Dubai, and never really gets below 50 degrees (10 degrees Celsius) so I want to make sure my slips-ons don't get too hot.
Appreciate the help...
I have been trying to find the answer to a question that seems simple:
Whats the difference between the XiED, ViED and X14iED. I understand that they have a different mixture but which one is best for my 2010 Iron? I do not want to have to play around too much - just plug and play. My main concern that it gets very hot in Dubai, and never really gets below 50 degrees (10 degrees Celsius) so I want to make sure my slips-ons don't get too hot.
Appreciate the help...
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I did look...and I am aware of the hatred of threads that go over the same topic. But the problem is that most posts are not written for complete noobs like me - noobs who won't ever get into the serious mechanical side of things and who are happy to let the stealer do all mods for them, even if they are simple.
I have little understanding of the 14:0 mixture ratio and as much as I read all I am looking for is a simple explanation of the difference between X14iED and XiED - something along the lines of "X14iED does X, Y, Z and is best for A, B, C." For example the below is an exert from a post by Osco that I have read 1000 times:
The X14ieD claims an AFR of 14.0
The XieD claims an AFR of 13.8
I get that - but what is the end result difference and which is better for my Iron? That is what I cannot find out...As far as I can read the X14iED is the way to go but I still wanted to know why.
I appreciate all the help I have gotten in this forum - its been invaluable, but sometimes its hard to find a straight answer which is why I posted a thread.
I have little understanding of the 14:0 mixture ratio and as much as I read all I am looking for is a simple explanation of the difference between X14iED and XiED - something along the lines of "X14iED does X, Y, Z and is best for A, B, C." For example the below is an exert from a post by Osco that I have read 1000 times:
The X14ieD claims an AFR of 14.0
The XieD claims an AFR of 13.8
I get that - but what is the end result difference and which is better for my Iron? That is what I cannot find out...As far as I can read the X14iED is the way to go but I still wanted to know why.
I appreciate all the help I have gotten in this forum - its been invaluable, but sometimes its hard to find a straight answer which is why I posted a thread.
Last edited by Dim100; Aug 7, 2011 at 01:59 PM.